> On 06/17/2015 01:54 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>>>> On 16/06/2015 05:12, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>>
>>>>> I guess we don't get those questions so much anymore, because there
>>>>> are
>>>>> fewer and fewer users all the time.  For that matter, I'm no longer
>>
>> I glanced back over this comment, and realized it doesn't have the word
>> "new" in it.  There are fewer and fewer NEW users every day.
>>
>> I can think of several reasons for this, such as people gravitating
>> toward tablets and smartphones, people gravitating toward browser-based
>> and cloud-based solutions, and even curious new Linux users just not
>> having enough interest to wade through the process of getting the damn
>> thing to boot on a modern computer.
>>
>> The CPU in my last machine died abruptly at 3:00 in the morning, so I
>> went to the only store open at that hour, Walmart, and bought a Dell
>> computer off the shelf.  It says a lot about how far Linux has come that
>> all the hardware in a totally stock consumer grade mass market black box
>> actually works with Linux, but I can't say the same for what I had to go
>> through to get my USB key to boot.
>>
>> Boot from the DVD?  Forget it.  Boot from USB?  Forget it.  BIOS screen
>> to change the boot order?  You must be joking!  No, you have to boot
>> Windows 8, then dig deep into some obscure menu, then enable something,
>> then reboot Windows 8, then dig into some other obscure menu and blah
>> blah blah for two hours, until you FINALLY figure it out, and get Linux
>> to boot.
>
> UEFI at its worst. I've been informed by Dell, though, that they carry
> many laptops that boot and run Linux just fine. (Looking at buying one
> to replace my wife's ailing netbook, since netbooks don't seem to exist
> anymore.)
>
> Of course, Linux hardware vendors aren't necessarily any nicer. My
> wife's netbook came with Ubuntu Linux installed. We don't use Ubuntu, we
> use Debian. But there are some system settings we can't change under
> Debian because the vendor's software for changing them runs only under
> Ubuntu.
>

Shuttle Computer makes Linux compatible boxen - and very nicely built ones
too!  The Intel NUC boxen work well with Linux also and they are good on
power consumption and space.  They even have a 5th generation i7 one.

>> If I had faced a challenge like that on the very first day, I never
>> would have gotten anywhere with any of this.  My level of dedication and
>> persistence just wasn't nearly high enough.
>>
>> Another thing that's changing is that email is almost irrelevant now,
>> and all the old haunts I grew up with have disappeared, without anything
>> really replacing them.  Everybody is on Facebook now, and there's
>> nothing social about Facebook unless you're a pretty girl.
>
> Facebook is a display ad platform. Check out what the Adcontrarian has
> to say about FB. ;)
>

I thought people call it "Tracebook" for a reason.  At least the police
and fire brigades call it that ;-)

>> It is what it is.  I don't see a bright future for any of the things I
>> love and hold dear.  The future is young people with a 15-second
>> attention span, randomly swallowing click bait, and texting each other
>> from across a table.
>
> Nope. They grow up. People were saying those same things about the
> 20-somethings I work with now - and they focus and have excellent
> attention spans.
>
> They're no more impatient about things than *we* were at that age. I
> remember my school teachers struggling mightily against the very same
> "no attention span, no patience" issues. ;)
>
> Of course, I'm 60 now and have gotten much more impatient since then.
>
>> No person born since 1994 has the attention span to read an email this
>> long.
>
> They would if it was on Facebook. Or on one of their friend's blogs.
> (I've read some of my daughter's friends blogs since way back when they
> were teens. Your email is real short compared to those posts!) ;)
>
>> tl;dr stuff changed, like me on Facebook so we can get little Johnny
>> Simpkins that new brain/computer interface so he can play candy crush
>> all day without having to lift a muscle, just because
>
> Facebook: The most successful Russian Mafia money-laundering operation
> of all time.
>

I understand it actually has close ties to an American government agency
starting with the letter N, ending with A ;-)

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