You want to do that here, Ben:
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:34:58 +0100
> > From: Martin Sumner <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>
> > To: riak-users@lists.basho.com
> > Subject: Re: Riak 2.9.0 - Update Available
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> >
> > There is now a second update available for 2.9.0:
> > https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p2.
> >
> > This patch, like the patch before, resolves a memory management issue in
> > leveled, which this time could be triggered by sending many large objects
> > in a short period of time.  The underlying problem is described a bit
> > further here https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/285, and is
> > resolved by leveled working more sympathetically with the beam binary
> > memory management.
> >
> > Switching to the patched version is not urgent unless you are using the
> > leveled backend, and may send a large number of large objects in a burst.
> >
> > Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI Tokyo) -
> > https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p2/
> >
> > Thanks again to the testing team at the NHS Spine project, Aaron Gibbon
> > (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the problem.  The issue was
> discovered
> > in a handoff scenario where there were a tens of thousands of 2MB objects
> > stored in a portion of the keyspace at the end of the handoff - which led
> > to memory issues until either more PUTs were received (to force a persist
> > to disk) or a restart occurred..
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Unfortunately, Riak 2.9.0 was released with an issue whereby a race
> >> condition in heavy-PUT scenarios (e.g. handoffs), could cause a leak of
> >> file descriptors.
> >>
> >> The issue is described here -
> https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/issues/1699,
> >> and the underlying issue here -
> >> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/278.
> >>
> >> There is a new patched version of the release available (2.9.0p1) at
> >> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p1.  This should be used
> in
> >> preference to the original release of 2.9.0.
> >>
> >> Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI Tokyo) -
> >> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p1/
> >>
> >> Thanks also to the testing team at the NHS Spine project, Aaron Gibbon
> >> (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the problem.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:24:28 +0100
> > From: Martin Sumner <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>
> > To: b h <bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: riak-users@lists.basho.com
> > Subject: Re: Riak 2.9.0 - Update Available
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> >
> > Bryan,
> >
> > We saw that Riak was using much more memory than was expected at the end
> of
> > the handoffs.  Using `riak-admin top` we could see that this wasn't
> process
> > memory, but binaries.  Firstly did some work via attach looping over
> > processes and running GC to confirm that this wasn't a failure to collect
> > garbage - the references to memory were real.  Then did a bit of work in
> > attach writing some functions to analyse process_info/2 for each process
> > (looking at binary and memory), and discovered that there were penciller
> > processes that had lots of references to lots of large binaries (and this
> > accounted for all the unexpected memory use), and where the penciller was
> > the only process with a reference to the binary.  This made no sense
> > initially as the penciller should only have small binaries (metadata).
> > Then looked at the running state of the penciller processes and could see
> > no large binaries in the state, but could see that a lot of the active
> keys
> > in the penciller were keys that were known to have large object values
> (but
> > small amounts of metadata) - and that the size of the object values were
> > the same as the size of the binary references found on the penciller
> > process via process_info/2..
> >
> > I then recalled the first part of this:
> >
> https://dieswaytoofast.blogspot.com/2012/12/erlang-binaries-and-garbage-collection.html
> .
> > It was obvious that in extracting the metadata the beam was naturally
> > retaining a reference to the whole binary, as long as the sub-binary was
> > retained by the a process (the Penciller).  Forcing a binary copy
> resolved
> > this referencing issue.  It was nice that the same tools used to detect
> the
> > issue, made it quite easy to write a test to confirm resolution -
> >
> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/blob/master/test/end_to_end/riak_SUITE.erl#L1214-L1239
> > .
> >
> > The memory leak section of Fred Herbert's
> http://www.erlang-in-anger.com/ is
> > great reading for helping with these types of issues.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:46, b h <bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Nice work - I've read issue / PR - how did you discover / track it down
> -
> >> tools or just reading the code ?
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner <
> martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is now a second update available for 2.9.0:
> >>> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p2.
> >>>
> >>> This patch, like the patch before, resolves a memory management issue
> in
> >>> leveled, which this time could be triggered by sending many large
> objects
> >>> in a short period of time.  The underlying problem is described a bit
> >>> further here https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/285, and
> is
> >>> resolved by leveled working more sympathetically with the beam binary
> >>> memory management.
> >>>
> >>> Switching to the patched version is not urgent unless you are using the
> >>> leveled backend, and may send a large number of large objects in a
> burst.
> >>>
> >>> Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI Tokyo) -
> >>> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p2/
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again to the testing team at the NHS Spine project, Aaron Gibbon
> >>> (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the problem.  The issue was
> discovered
> >>> in a handoff scenario where there were a tens of thousands of 2MB
> objects
> >>> stored in a portion of the keyspace at the end of the handoff - which
> led
> >>> to memory issues until either more PUTs were received (to force a
> persist
> >>> to disk) or a restart occurred..
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner <
> martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Unfortunately, Riak 2.9.0 was released with an issue whereby a race
> >>>> condition in heavy-PUT scenarios (e.g. handoffs), could cause a leak
> of
> >>>> file descriptors.
> >>>>
> >>>> The issue is described here -
> >>>> https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/issues/1699, and the underlying
> issue
> >>>> here - https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/278.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a new patched version of the release available (2.9.0p1) at
> >>>> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p1.  This should be used
> >>>> in preference to the original release of 2.9.0.
> >>>>
> >>>> Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI Tokyo) -
> >>>> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p1/
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks also to the testing team at the NHS Spine project, Aaron Gibbon
> >>>> (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Martin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> riak-users mailing list
> >>> riak-users@lists.basho.com
> >>> http://lists.basho.com/mailman/listinfo/riak-users_lists.basho.com
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:26:47 +0100
> > From: Russell Brown <russell.br...@mac.com>
> > To: riak-users@lists.basho.com
> > Subject: Re: Riak 2.9.0 - Update Available
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> >
> > Good job on finding and fixing so fast.
> >
> > I have to ask. What's with the naming scheme? Why not 2.9.2 instead of
> > 2.9.0p2?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Russell
> >
> >> On 28/06/2019 10:24, Martin Sumner wrote:
> >> Bryan,
> >>
> >> We saw that Riak was using much more memory than was expected at the
> >> end of the handoffs.? Using `riak-admin top` we could see that this
> >> wasn't process memory, but binaries. Firstly did some work via attach
> >> looping over processes and running GC to confirm that this wasn't a
> >> failure to collect garbage - the references to memory were real.? Then
> >> did a bit of work in attach writing some functions to analyse
> >> process_info/2 for each process (looking at binary and memory), and
> >> discovered that there were penciller processes that had lots of
> >> references to lots of large binaries (and this accounted for all the
> >> unexpected memory use), and where the penciller was the only process
> >> with a reference to the binary.? This made no sense initially as the
> >> penciller should only have small binaries (metadata).? Then looked at
> >> the running state of the penciller processes and could see no large
> >> binaries in the state, but could see that a lot of the active keys in
> >> the penciller were keys that were known to have large object values
> >> (but small amounts of metadata) - and that the size of the object
> >> values were the same as the size of the binary references found on the
> >> penciller process via process_info/2..
> >>
> >> I then recalled the first part of this:
> >>
> https://dieswaytoofast.blogspot.com/2012/12/erlang-binaries-and-garbage-collection.html.
>
> >> It was obvious that in extracting the metadata the beam was naturally
> >> retaining a reference to the whole binary, as long as the sub-binary
> >> was retained by the a process (the Penciller).? Forcing a binary copy
> >> resolved this referencing issue.? It was nice that the same tools used
> >> to detect the issue, made it quite easy to write a test to confirm
> >> resolution -
> >>
> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/blob/master/test/end_to_end/riak_SUITE.erl#L1214-L1239
> .
> >>
> >> The memory leak section of Fred Herbert's
> >> http://www.erlang-in-anger.com/?is great reading for helping with
> >> these types of issues.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:46, b h <bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    Nice work - I've read issue / PR - how did you discover / track it
> >>    down - tools or just reading the code ?
> >>
> >>    On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner
> >>    <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk <mailto:martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>>
> >>    wrote:
> >>
> >>        There is now a second update available for 2.9.0:
> >>        https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p2.
> >>
> >>        This patch, like the patch before, resolves a memory
> >>        management issue in leveled, which this time could be
> >>        triggered by sending many large objects in a short period of
> >>        time.? The underlying problem is described a bit further here
> >>        https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/285, and is
> >>        resolved by leveled working more sympathetically with the beam
> >>        binary memory management.
> >>
> >>        Switching to the patched version is not urgent unless you are
> >>        using the leveled backend, and may send a large number of
> >>        large objects in a burst.
> >>
> >>        Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI
> >>        Tokyo) - https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p2/
> >>
> >>        Thanks again to the testing team at the NHS Spine project,
> >>        Aaron Gibbon (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the
> >>        problem.? The issue was discovered in a handoff scenario where
> >>        there were a tens of thousands of 2MB objects stored in a
> >>        portion of the keyspace at the end of the handoff - which led
> >>        to memory issues until either more PUTs were received (to
> >>        force a persist to disk) or a restart occurred..
> >>
> >>        Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>        On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner
> >>        <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk
> >>        <mailto:martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>
> >>            Unfortunately, Riak 2.9.0 was released with an issue
> >>            whereby a race condition in heavy-PUT scenarios (e.g.
> >>            handoffs), could cause a leak of file descriptors.
> >>
> >>            The issue is described here -
> >>            https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/issues/1699, and the
> >>            underlying issue here -
> >>            https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/278.
> >>
> >>            There is a new patched version of the release available
> >>            (2.9.0p1) at
> >>            https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p1. This
> >>            should be used in preference to the original release of
> 2.9.0.
> >>
> >>            Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI
> >>            Tokyo) - https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p1/
> >>
> >>            Thanks also to the testing team at the NHS Spine project,
> >>            Aaron Gibbon (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the
> problem.
> >>
> >>            Regards
> >>
> >>            Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>        _______________________________________________
> >>        riak-users mailing list
> >>        riak-users@lists.basho.com <mailto:riak-users@lists.basho.com>
> >>
> http://lists.basho.com/mailman/listinfo/riak-users_lists.basho.com
> >>
> >>
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> >> riak-users@lists.basho.com
> >> http://lists.basho.com/mailman/listinfo/riak-users_lists.basho.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:04:56 +0100
> > From: Bryan Hunt <bryan.h...@erlang-solutions.com>
> > To: Martin Sumner <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>
> > Cc: b h <bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com>, riak-users@lists.basho.com
> > Subject: Re: Riak 2.9.0 - Update Available
> > Message-ID:
> >    <6d5955f8-8255-4a51-9bc0-04cee1bdb...@erlang-solutions.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Top quality spelunking - always fun to read - thanks Martin !
> >
> >> On 28 Jun 2019, at 10:24, Martin Sumner <martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bryan,
> >>
> >> We saw that Riak was using much more memory than was expected at the
> end of the handoffs.  Using `riak-admin top` we could see that this wasn't
> process memory, but binaries.  Firstly did some work via attach looping
> over processes and running GC to confirm that this wasn't a failure to
> collect garbage - the references to memory were real.  Then did a bit of
> work in attach writing some functions to analyse process_info/2 for each
> process (looking at binary and memory), and discovered that there were
> penciller processes that had lots of references to lots of large binaries
> (and this accounted for all the unexpected memory use), and where the
> penciller was the only process with a reference to the binary.  This made
> no sense initially as the penciller should only have small binaries
> (metadata).  Then looked at the running state of the penciller processes
> and could see no large binaries in the state, but could see that a lot of
> the active keys in the penciller were keys that were known to have large
> object values (but small amounts of metadata) - and that the size of the
> object values were the same as the size of the binary references found on
> the penciller process via process_info/2..
> >>
> >> I then recalled the first part of this:
> https://dieswaytoofast.blogspot.com/2012/12/erlang-binaries-and-garbage-collection.html
> <
> https://dieswaytoofast.blogspot.com/2012/12/erlang-binaries-and-garbage-collection.html>.
> It was obvious that in extracting the metadata the beam was naturally
> retaining a reference to the whole binary, as long as the sub-binary was
> retained by the a process (the Penciller).  Forcing a binary copy resolved
> this referencing issue.  It was nice that the same tools used to detect the
> issue, made it quite easy to write a test to confirm resolution -
> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/blob/master/test/end_to_end/riak_SUITE.erl#L1214-L1239
> <
> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/blob/master/test/end_to_end/riak_SUITE.erl#L1214-L1239
> >.
> >>
> >> The memory leak section of Fred Herbert's
> http://www.erlang-in-anger.com/ <http://www.erlang-in-anger.com/> is
> great reading for helping with these types of issues.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:46, b h <bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com <mailto:
> bryanhuntwit...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Nice work - I've read issue / PR - how did you discover / track it down
> - tools or just reading the code ?
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner <
> martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk <mailto:martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>> wrote:
> >> There is now a second update available for 2.9.0:
> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p2 <
> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p2>.
> >>
> >> This patch, like the patch before, resolves a memory management issue
> in leveled, which this time could be triggered by sending many large
> objects in a short period of time.  The underlying problem is described a
> bit further here https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/285 <
> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/285>, and is resolved by
> leveled working more sympathetically with the beam binary memory
> management.
> >>
> >> Switching to the patched version is not urgent unless you are using the
> leveled backend, and may send a large number of large objects in a burst.
> >>
> >> Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI Tokyo) -
> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p2/ <
> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p2/>
> >>
> >> Thanks again to the testing team at the NHS Spine project, Aaron Gibbon
> (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the problem.  The issue was discovered
> in a handoff scenario where there were a tens of thousands of 2MB objects
> stored in a portion of the keyspace at the end of the handoff - which led
> to memory issues until either more PUTs were received (to force a persist
> to disk) or a restart occurred..
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 09:35, Martin Sumner <
> martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk <mailto:martin.sum...@adaptip.co.uk>> wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, Riak 2.9.0 was released with an issue whereby a race
> condition in heavy-PUT scenarios (e.g. handoffs), could cause a leak of
> file descriptors.
> >>
> >> The issue is described here -
> https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/issues/1699 <
> https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/issues/1699>, and the underlying issue
> here - https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/278 <
> https://github.com/martinsumner/leveled/issues/278>.
> >>
> >> There is a new patched version of the release available (2.9.0p1) at
> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p1 <
> https://github.com/basho/riak/tree/riak-2.9.0p1>.  This should be used in
> preference to the original release of 2.9.0.
> >>
> >> Updated packages are available (thanks to Nick Adams at TI Tokyo) -
> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p1/ <
> https://files.tiot.jp/riak/kv/2.9/2.9.0p1/>
> >>
> >> Thanks also to the testing team at the NHS Spine project, Aaron Gibbon
> (BJSS) and Ramen Sen, who discovered the problem.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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