Thank you all for you kind and quick answers

However , even on a 3 node or 5 node cluster
We're still seeing memory bloat ( only much notably slower , as load is
distributed between more machines )

it's important to stress , this is an "read-append" only cluster - This
means the data never expires , and from the moment the cluster is
up , we keep adding data in the form of S3 puts ( of around 9MB objects ) ,
until we reach around 300K PUTS

This is also why merges don't happen ( no stale data )

Has anyone come across this situation in the past ?
does Riak even fit for something like this  ?


Regards,

Idan Shinberg


System Architect

Idomoo Ltd.



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On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Erik Søe Sørensen <e...@trifork.com> wrote:

> Your max file size is (far!) less than your small file size threshold -
> which means that at each merge,  *all* of the files will participate in the
> merge. No wonder you need a lot of simultaneously open files... and long
> merge times too, of course.
> Try changing these parameters.
>
>
>
> -------- Oprindelig meddelelse --------
> Fra: Idan Shinberg <idan.shinb...@idomoo.com>
> Dato:
> Til: riak-users <riak-users@lists.basho.com>
> Cc: Arik Katsav <a...@idomoo.com>,Assaf Fogel <as...@idomoo.com>
> Emne: Riak Memory Bloat issues with RiakCS/BitCask
>
>
> Hi all
>
> We have a ~300GB Riak Single Node Cluster
> This seems to have worked fine ( merging worked good ) until an
> OpenFile/OpenPorts limit was reached ( since then , we've tweaked both to
> 64K )
> The above error caused a crash that left corrupted hint files .We've
> deleted the hint ( and their corrosponding the data files ) to allow a
> clean start to riak ( no errors upon start) .
>
> However , merges have not been really  working  ( taking forever to
> complete  ) since then  , therefor causing :
>
>  *   Huge Bloat on disk ( Data is around 150K objects of roughly 8MB each
> , but has already more then quadrupled in size the riak storage used (
> around 1.2 TB )
>  *   Huge Bloat in memory , which eventually kills riak itself ( OOM
> killer )
>
> We're not doing anything complex , just using riak and riak-cs to emulate
> S3 access ( and only it ) for roughly 15 client writes  per minute.
>
> Our merge settings ( uber-low , but have worked correctly in the up till a
> few days ago ) :
>
>  {riak_kv, [
>             %% Storage_backend specifies the Erlang module defining the
> storage
>             %% mechanism that will be used on this node.
>                 {add_paths, ["/usr/lib64/riak-cs/lib/riak_cs-1.3.1/ebin"]},
>                 {storage_backend, riak_cs_kv_multi_backend},
>                 {multi_backend_prefix_list, [{<<"0b:">>, be_blocks}]},
>                 {multi_backend_default, be_default},
>                 {multi_backend, [
>                     {be_default, riak_kv_eleveldb_backend, [
>                         {max_open_files, 50},
>                         {data_root, "/var/lib/riak/leveldb"}
>                     ]},
>                     {be_blocks, riak_kv_bitcask_backend, [
>
>                         {max_file_size, 16#2000000}, %% 32MB
>
>                         %% Trigger a merge if any of the following are
> true:
>                         {frag_merge_trigger, 10}, %% fragmentation >= 10%
>                         {dead_bytes_merge_trigger, 8388608}, %% dead bytes
> > 8 MB
>
>                         %% Conditions that determine if a file will be
> examined during a merge:
>                         {frag_threshold, 5}, %% fragmentation >= 5%
>                         {dead_bytes_threshold, 2097152}, %% dead bytes > 2
> MB
>                         {small_file_threshold, 16#80000000}, %% file is <
> 2GB
>
>                         {data_root, "/var/lib/riak/bitcask"},
>                         {log_needs_merge, true}
>
>
>                     ]}
>                 ]},
>
> As you've noticed , log_needs_merge is set to true and we do get our logs
> filled with needs_merge messages such as this one :
>
> ,{"/var/l...",...},...]
> 2013-08-19 00:09:49.043 [info] <0.17972.0>
> "/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728"
> needs_merge:
> [{"/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/1153.bitcask.data",[{small_file,20506434}]},{"/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/1152.bitcask.data",[{small_file,33393237}]},{"/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/1151.bitcask.data",[{small_file,33123254}]},{"/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/1150.bitcask.data",[{small_file,32505520}]},{"/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/1149.
> ...
> ...
> ...
>
> Yet a merge Only a single merge happened  ( and only after around 20
> minutes since we started putting pressure on the riak) :
>
> 2013-08-19 00:17:29.456 [info] <0.18964.14> Merged
> {["/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/712.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/
>
> bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/711.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/710.bitcask
>
> .data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/709.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/38821137241602108764785378369026267709
>
> 6107081728/708.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/707.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211
> ...
> ...
> ...
> var/lib/riak/bitc
>
> ask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/697.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/696.bitcask.dat
>
> a","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/695.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107
>
> 081728/694.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/693.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/38821137241602108764
>
> 7853783690262677096107081728/692.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcask/388211372416021087647853783690262677096107081728/691.bitcask.data","/var/lib/riak/bitcas
> k/38821137241602108...",...],...} in 1325.611982 seconds.
>
> Is it reasonable for a merge to take more then 20 minutes ?
> Especially assuming riak's memory usage is bloating much faster ?
> Will Scaling the cluster from a single node to a 3-node cluster ease the
> problem ?
>
> As for the server and usage specs
>
> - Virtual machine having around 8 virtual cores
> - 12 GB of RAM
> - 8 TB of Storage composed of 4 x 2TB disks in Raid 10 ( 4TB available
> storage )
> - ~150 keys several 10s of bytes long ( using Riak-CS for s3 storage ) .
> - ~8MB value size for each key ( raw file )
> - ~22000 Open files ( mostly hint files ) by riak
> - Replication factor of  1
> - Ring size is 64
>
> I'll provide the logs if needed , yet I doubt they'll prove useful .
>
> Any ideas/advice will be appreciated
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Idan Shinberg
>
>
> System Architect
>
> Idomoo Ltd.
>
>
>
> Mob +972.54.562.2072
>
> email idan.shinb...@idomoo.com<mailto:idan.shinb...@idomoo.com>
>
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