Agreed.

I haven't dug into the administration/cluster functionality of Riak yet (any
version), but these changes all look excellent, esp based on what I've read
about clustering in the past.
Very excited for the 1.0 release :-)
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Alexander Sicular <sicul...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Seconded, force-remove.
>
> @siculars
> http://siculars.posterous.com
>
> Sent from my rotary phone.
> On Sep 7, 2011 9:14 PM, "Nicholas Campbell" <nicholas.j.campb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > +1 to force-remove. Clear is better than less typing (to a point).
> >
> > This sounds great!
> >
> > - Nick Campbell
> >
> > http://digitaltumbleweed.com
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Joseph Blomstedt <j...@basho.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Given that 1.0 prerelease packages are now available, I wanted to
> >> mention some changes to Riak's clustering capabilities in 1.0. In
> >> particular, there are some subtle semantic differences in the
> >> riak-admin commands. More complete docs will be updated in the near
> >> future, but I hope a quick email suffices for now.
> >>
> >> [nodeB/riak-admin join nodeA] is now strictly one-way. It joins nodeB
> >> to the cluster that nodeA is a member of. This is semantically
> >> different than pre-1.0 Riak in which join essentially joined clusters
> >> together rather than joined a node to a cluster. As part of this
> >> change, the joining node (nodeB in this case) must be a singleton
> >> (1-node) cluster.
> >>
> >> In pre-1.0, leave and remove were essentially the same operation, with
> >> leave just being an alias for 'remove this-node'. This has changed.
> >> Leave and remove are now very different operations.
> >>
> >> [nodeB/riak-admin leave] is the only safe way to have a node leave the
> >> cluster, and it must be executed by the node that you want to remove.
> >> In this case, nodeB will start leaving the cluster, and will not leave
> >> the cluster until after it has handed off all its data. Even if nodeB
> >> is restarted (crashed/shutdown/whatever), it will remain in the leave
> >> state and continue handing off partitions until done. After handoff,
> >> it will leave the cluster, and eventually shutdown.
> >>
> >> [nodeA/riak-admin remove nodeB] immediately removes nodeB from the
> >> cluster, without handing off its data. All replicas held by nodeB are
> >> therefore lost, and will need to be re-generated through read-repair.
> >> Use this command carefully. It's intended for nodes that are
> >> permanently unrecoverable and therefore for which handoff doesn't make
> >> sense. By the final 1.0 release, this command may be renamed
> >> "force-remove" just to make the distinction clear.
> >>
> >> There are now two new commands that provide additional insight into
> >> the cluster. [riak-admin member_status] and [riak-admin ring_status].
> >>
> >> Underneath, the clustering protocol has been mostly re-written. The
> >> new approach has the following advantages:
> >> 1. It is no longer necessary to wait on [riak-admin ringready] in
> >> between adding/removing nodes from the cluster, and adding/removing is
> >> also much more sound/graceful. Starting up 16 nodes and issuing
> >> [nodeX: riak-admin join node1] for X=1:16 should just work.
> >>
> >> 2. Data is first transferred to new partition owners before handing
> >> over partition ownership. This change fixes numerous bugs, such as
> >> 404s/not_founds during ownership changes. The Ring/Pending columns in
> >> [riak-admin member_status] visualize this at a high-level, and the
> >> full transfer status in [riak-admin ring_status] provide additional
> >> insight.
> >>
> >> 3. All partition ownership decisions are now made by a single node in
> >> the cluster (the claimant). Any node can be the claimant, and the duty
> >> is automatically taken over if the previous claimant is removed from
> >> the cluster. [riak-admin member_status] will list the current
> >> claimant.
> >>
> >> 4. Handoff related to ownership changes can now occur under load;
> >> hinted handoff still only occurs when a vnode is inactive. This change
> >> allows a cluster to scale up/down under load, although this needs to
> >> be further benchmarked and tuned before 1.0.
> >>
> >> To support all of the above, a new limitation has been introduced.
> >> Cluster changes (member addition/removal, ring rebalance, etc) can
> >> only occur when all nodes are up and reachable. [riak-admin
> >> ring_status] will complain when this is not the case. If a node is
> >> down, you must issue [riak-admin down <node>] to mark the node as
> >> down, and the remaining nodes will then proceed to converge as usual.
> >> Once the down node comes back online, it will automatically
> >> re-integrate into the cluster. However, there is nothing preventing
> >> client requests being served by a down node before it re-integrates.
> >> Before issuing [down <node>], make sure to update your load balancers
> >> / connection pools to not include this node. Future releases of Riak
> >> may make offlining a node an automatic operation, but it's a
> >> user-initiated action in 1.0.
> >>
> >> -Joe
> >>
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