Pawel,

I would state that it’s providing an additional option for server and client 
implementers based on the advantages and disadvantages of each of the 
transports.   EoT has worked well for many years, EoH provides enhanced Cloud 
capabilities, and EoQ provides some interesting security and performance 
features that can benefit some registries and registrars.

Thanks,

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JG

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From: "kowa...@denic.de" <kowa...@denic.de>
Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 at 8:45 AM
To: James Gould <jgo...@verisign.com>, "gal...@elistx.com" <gal...@elistx.com>, 
"regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: 
draft-yao-regext-epp-quic and draft-loffredo-regext-epp-over-http


Hi Jim,

Got it. Is it a problem to solve or solution looking for a problem?

Kind regards,

Pawel
On 04.02.25 14:38, Gould, James wrote:

Pawel,



I will mirror what I stated at the IETF 119 session, that there are economies 
of scale to have both EoH and EoQ progress at the same time.  Based on my 
implementation experience with EoQ, it has security and functional advantages 
over EoT.  Specifically, the encryption is setup ahead of time with the QUIC 
connection and a set of streams (EoQ connections) can be setup without the 
overhead of setting up the encryption via a TLS handshake, so a set of EoQ 
connections can be established quicker.  EoQ can provide security and 
performance enhancements over EoT and is lower level than EoH for those 
registries that have the need for higher performance.  All the transports (EoT, 
EoH, and EoQ) are pluggable, so they can be chosen based on the needs of the 
EPP registry and the registrars.  The Verisign EPP SDK 1.17.0.2, published at 
https://www.verisign.com/en_US/channel-resources/domain-registry-products/epp-sdks,
 has an implementation of the transports if you would like to try them out.



Thanks,



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JG







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On 2/4/25, 3:59 AM, "kowa...@denic.de<mailto:kowa...@denic.de> 
<mailto:kowa...@denic.de><mailto:kowa...@denic.de>" 
<kowa...@denic.de<mailto:kowa...@denic.de> 
<mailto:kowa...@denic.de><mailto:kowa...@denic.de>> wrote:





A clear +1 for adoption of DoH.





For DoQ I share the opinions expressed in the room in IETF 119 session,

that benefits from adding this transport are not clear, so I don't think

we should spend cycles on this draft until this is better answered.

Adding this new transport on a Standard track would mean that EPP will

have two standard transports without telling why someone should decide

for one instead of the other.





Kind Regards,





Pawel





On 03.02.25 15:05, James Galvin wrote:

Continuing our potential adoption of new documents, as previously discussed the 
next two documents will be taken together. The suggestion is to advance them 
together, although if these are adopted the working group can choose to advance 
them separately.
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