Hi Marco, I think I understand your point now. This about the ROIDs for the contacts not the domain.
In that case, I think the 2019 profile says it must be a "unique identifier within the Registrar". If you think this is a bug with the RDAP conformance tool, you can file a bug here: https://github.com/icann/rdap-conformance-tool/issues -andy On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 4:24 PM Marco Schrieck <marco.schri...@internetx.com> wrote: > > Hi > > Yes the registry should generate them, but what with thin Registries. > > Only we as registrar have the contact data. So we don't have a registry > generated roid. > > I can generate on but the rdap profile checker require me to register the > suffix at iana. > > Eg > 1234567-IX > > If i don't register it we got an error the we use uncorrect value. > "Globally unique identifier not registered in EPPROID" > > At the moment we let it empty and got a warning instead of error. > > Marco > > > On 30 January 2025 22:00:50 CET, "Andrew Newton (andy)" <a...@hxr.us> wrote: >> >> Marco, >> >> Assuming you are talking about the 2019 gTLD profile, the registry >> should be generating the ROIDs because it is also required of them. >> >> -andy >> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:52 PM Marco Schrieck >> <marco.schri...@internetx.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> As I understand it must be registered there. But as i can oversee it, >>> there are only Registries. >>> >>> Marco >>> >>> >>> On 30 January 2025 19:42:38 CET, James Mitchell <james.mitch...@iana.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> My understanding is the EPP ROID is an identifier that is composed of a >>>> suffix that identifies the registry/repository to which an object belongs. >>>> That repository identifier should be registered in the IANA registry of >>>> EPP Repository Identifiers at >>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/epp-repository-ids. I can’t speak to >>>> whether a registration is necessary for your use case – that would appear >>>> to be up to those writing the (test) requirements. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: InterNetX - Marco Schrieck <marco.schri...@internetx.com> >>>> Organization: InterNetX GmbH >>>> Date: Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:14 AM >>>> To: "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org> >>>> Subject: [Ext] [regext] Clarification on ROID Usage for Registrars in >>>> Thin Registry RDAP Implementations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am writing to seek guidance on the handling of ROID (Repository Object >>>> IDentifier) in RDAP implementations for registrars together with thin >>>> registry models (where registrars hold domain/contact/host data). Our >>>> organization acts as a registrar and is working to comply with the RDAP >>>> profile outlined in RFC 7483 and related 2019 updates. >>>> >>>> Context >>>> >>>> · We operate in a thin registry environment where the registry >>>> delegates RDAP queries to registrars. >>>> >>>> · Our implementation uses registrar-generated identifiers (not >>>> ROIDs), as the registry does not assign or store ROIDs. >>>> >>>> · During RDAP testing, we encountered errors such as “globally >>>> unique identifier not registered in EPPROID”, suggesting a mismatch >>>> between our identifiers and ROID expectations. >>>> >>>> Questions >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. RFC 7483 §10.2.4 mentions roid as optional. For registrars in thin >>>> models: >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> 3. Is it acceptable to use registrar-generated handles (e.g., UUIDs) >>>> instead of ROIDs in RDAP responses? >>>> >>>> 4. >>>> >>>> o Are there best practices for mapping internal registrar IDs to RDAP >>>> handle or roid fields? >>>> >>>> o >>>> >>>> o Did the 2019 discussions formalize any extensions (e.g., custom JSON >>>> fields) for registrars to bypass ROID requirements? >>>> >>>> o >>>> >>>> o How do we resolve errors like “identifier not registered in EPPROID” >>>> if ROIDs are registry-managed but unavailable to registrars? >>>> >>>> § >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for your insights. >>>> >>>> >>>> Ciao >>>> Marco >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> InterNetX GmbH >>>> >>>> Johanna-Dachs-Str. 55 • 93055 Regensburg • Germany >>>> >>>> Tel. +49 941 59559-0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> internetx.com • internetx.com/linkedin • internetx.com/twitter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Geschäftsführer: >>>> >>>> Elias Rendón Benger (CEO), Lars Krämer >>>> >>>> Amtsgericht Regensburg, HRB 7142 >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> regext mailing list -- regext@ietf.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to regext-le...@ietf.org >> >> ________________________________ >> regext mailing list -- regext@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to regext-le...@ietf.org _______________________________________________ regext mailing list -- regext@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to regext-le...@ietf.org
