Hi Ralf,
We're a little unclear what you mean. My comments are inline with [WC]. 
Thanks,
Bill

On 11/28/24, 10:26 AM, "Ralf Weber via Datatracker" <nore...@ietf.org 
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Reviewer: Ralf Weber
Review result: Almost Ready


Moin!


I am an assigned DNS Directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp.


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Overall the draft does a great job explaining the problem space of host object
deletion in EPP and uses a great structure for that.


From a DNS perspective however I think there are some things that could be
improved. First I think we need a more precise definition of what renaming
means for the DNS referral answer. If e.g the name and not the IP that has
different impact on DNS resolution than if a there is a name that is not
resolvable or a renaming and giving an IP that actually responds. This should
IMHO be added to the cases in section 5. I am not even sure on what the results
are for all the cases, but would offer to help with text/examples on that once
that is clear for all the cases.

[WC] Can you clarify the question? I'm not sure how the IPs are relevant. When 
an object (e.g., ns1.to-be-deleted.com) is renamed, requests for the previous 
name should receive a non-existent response as the previous name is no longer 
in the zone. Do we need to specify that if ns1.to-be-deleted.com is renamed to 
ns1.sacrificial-ns.org, then here are no assurances that ns1.sacrificial-ns.org 
will resolve, offer DNS service, or respond to queries for to-be-deleted.com 
with a positive or negative response (see RFC 2308 and RFC 9520)? It seems like 
we are not introducing any new behavior there, but maybe I'm misunderstanding 
the question.

Second on section 5.1.3.4 the text on if I should run an resolver or an
authoritative answer for the sacrifical name server host and what the answer
actually is. Now there might have been discussions about that that I am not
aware of and there may be a reason for the text, but if so it should be noted.
My rather simple view on this if I had to run such a server I would answer
REFUSED to all the queries I got.

[WC] We deliberately left it somewhat open to the operator: "The sacrificial 
name server should run a DNS resolution service capable of responding with an 
authoritative non-error, non-failure response for requests made for associated 
domains. The service SHOULD provide responses that indicate problems with a 
domain's delegation, such as non-existence or include controlled interruption 
IP addresses." 
REFUSED could be problematic (at least until all recursives are RFC 9520 
compliant-see RFC 9520 §2.2).

Not related to this draft, but I am happy that the so far proposed DELEG
solutions will solve the problem as there no longer is a need for a host
object, but as we are not there yet this document is badly needed, so please
keep up the good work and if there is anything I can help please reach out.

So long
-Ralf









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