Thanks! My comments are inline with [WC]. Please let us know if the proposed 
changes are adequate.

From: Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 9:37 AM
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# Orie Steele, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete-bcp-08
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I have only minor comments, and I believe this document is ready for IETF Last 
Call.

## Comments

Thanks to Andy Newton for the shepherd writeup.

Highlighting a comment from the writeup:

```
Additionally, there were discussion regarding the use of BCPs to suggest
practices that are not know to be practiced. In other words, how can a BCP 
normatively
require a practice that has not been observed because it is not a "current" 
practice.
It was noted that RFC 2026 permits BCPs to describe what is believed to be the 
best
way to perform some operations or IETF process functions.
```

Indeed the document highlights several patterns which would "not be best", and 
provides recommendations for what is believed to be best at this time.

### Why not MUST?

```
414   The service SHOULD provide responses that indicate problems with a
415   domain's delegation, such as non-existence or include controlled
416   interruption IP addresses [RFC8023].  This practice has been observed
417   in use.
```

Under which circumstances can this should be safely ignored?
[WC]: Good point. We will change the “SHOULD” to a “MUST.” We had some concerns 
that our examples of potential responses was not comprehensive (e.g., use of 
extended RFC 8914 errors are not mentioned). However, as the “responses that 
indicate problems” language is generic enough, those concerns should be covered.
### Use of .invalid recommended?

.alt is clearly forbidden:

```
440   Clients may rename host objects to use ".alt" or another non-DNS
441   pseudo-TLD as suggested in [risky-bizness-irtf].  This practice has
442   not been observed in use.  This practice MUST NOT be used.
```

So I wonder if there should be clear guidance on treatment of .invalid.

```
471   Clients may rename host objects to use ".invalid" or another reserved
472   special-use ([RFC6761]) TLD as suggested in [risky-bizness].
```

Because the comments on .alt come before the comments on .invalid, I get the 
feeling that use of .invalid is encouraged... even though there is no explicit 
guidance.

Later:

```
748      use domain issues described in [RFC8244].  Use of
749      "sacrificial.invalid" (see 5.1.4.3) as the parent domain for the
750      host objects is RECOMMENDED to avoid the overhead of creating a
751      new TLD using either IETF or ICANN processes that offers no
752      additional operational benefit.
```

Perhaps add a brief comment and a pointer to this recommendation when the 
concept is introduced.
[WC]: We agree; the 5.1.4.2 special-use section should have a normative 
reference to match the 5.1.4.1 pseudo-TLD section’s MUST NOT (line 442). We 
will add a sentence and reference to line 467 like, “This practice is 
RECOMMENDED (see 6).”

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OS, ART AD
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