With the latest updates posted for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type and 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions, we need to look at the below alignment 
feedback that I provided back in July between the three drafts.

I believe that merging draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type into 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning should be considered, since 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning supports draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type 
as an option for the client to provide the extension signaling and as a 
requirement for the server.  Merging will ensure that there is alignment.

Thanks,

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JG

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From: "Gould, James" <jgould=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Monday, July 22, 2024 at 10:59 AM
To: "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] Review of draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type, and draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions

Hi,

I did a detailed review of the three drafts draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type, and draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions for 
alignment.  The following are my findings:


  1.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning includes support for 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type and the “versioning” query parameter for 
the client to provide a hint of the extension versions to include in the RDAP 
query and RDAP response.  The server MUST support both methods and the client 
MUST include a single method in the RDAP query to ensure that there are no 
conflicts.  This ensures that clients can specify the extension versions via a 
query parameter and via an HTTP header per draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type.
  2.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type could be merged into 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, since it now represents one method of an 
Extension Versioning Request.
     *   An alternative is for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type to support a 
more generic form of query parameters for use in any RDAP extension.
     *   The extension can stay separate if there is some advantage.
  3.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning defines a Extension Version Identifier 
in section 3.1 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning#name-extension-version-identifie<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Tdg4m5JitpxW6itEfcDynMUFCuaVtWRHjT4Li7mRPC8UmAlVU_JxLuj7Y53vZJjVIR3n60cKb17D6wR_sDwnP79PdfmqbAlbxRqfox-oWj7B6Aeo1ojJt7OCM02c6qrjL6v55axy0p6djQEJeRe2Wgio4lKVrHAXTRScpTRFYy26KtX5wGXwv5J7EZjfZ0ef_BBc8Z4bBkdoXrJ4qzpK6q_wICynV8dTxUFZKqLjeWjR_qkIWQQSoptYD2sP5EvFNw47vdC4Q2jGX_zkRBvhKPoCPBL40QUuUObkQ5E80A0/https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning%23name-extension-version-identifie>
 as:
     *   ABNF

                                                              i.      
extension-version-identifier = identifier versioning

                                                             ii.      
identifier = ALPHA *( ALPHA / DIGIT / "_") ; Extension Identifer

                                                           iii.      versioning 
= ["-" 1*VCHAR]

     *   draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type needs to also support the 
extension-version-identifier to use it with draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, 
which currently uses the language:

                                                              i.      “This 
media type has a parameter of "extensions" which is a whitespace-separated list 
of RDAP extensions as defined in the IANA RDAP Extensions registry.”

           *   How about making this more generic to support additional types 
of extension versioning schemes, such as the language:
              *   “This media type has a parameter of "extensions" which is a 
whitespace-separated list of RDAP extensions, such as defined in the IANA RDAP 
Extensions registry.”

                                                                                
                                                      i.      Use of the IANA 
RDAP Extensions registry will support Opaque Versioning in 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, where use of “such as” will allow for 
additional RDAP extensions schemes.

                                                             ii.      “the 
values in the media type's extension parameter SHOULD match the values in the 
rdapConformance array in the return JSON.”

           *   The Extension Version Identifier does include the extension 
identifier, so the question is whether inclusion of the versioning suffix will 
meet the “match the values in the rdapConformance array”.
           *   How about making this more specific to directly reference the 
version identifiers, which would work better with 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning:
              *   “the extension identifier values in the media type's 
extension parameter SHOULD match the values in the rdapConformance array in the 
return JSON.”
           *   “though clients SHOULD list the extension identifier in the 
extensions parameter when using other protocol elements of those extensions.  
Servers SHOULD NOT require the usage of extension identifiers in the extensions 
paramater when other extension protocol elements are used.
              *   To support draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, this could be 
modified as:

                                                                                
                                                      i.      “though clients 
SHOULD list the extension identifier in the extensions parameter when using 
other protocol elements of those extensions.  Servers SHOULD NOT require the 
usage of extensions identifiers in the extensions parameter when other 
extension protocol elements are used”

                                                                                
                                                     ii.      Referencing 
extension instead of extension identifier would be more generic to support the 
Extension Version Identifier.

                                                                                
                                                   iii.      Nit – replace 
“paramater” with “parameter”

  1.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type Security Considerations parameter 
below may be best to address in draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning and even more 
generically in draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions
     *   “This specification does contrast with solutions using query 
parameters in that those solutions require servers to blindly copy query 
parameters into redirect URLs in situations where such copying could cause 
harm, such as copying an API key intended for one server into the redirect URL 
of another server.”
  2.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type B.2 “Query Parameters Considered 
Harmful” could be moved to draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions, since query 
parameters are used in many places in RDAP, so providing clear guidance when a 
query parameter should or should not be used would be useful in 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions.  I don’t believe query parameters are 
“harmful” but has a disadvantage in the use cases presented.  The query 
parameter has the advantage of being a simple approach for clients to provide 
their hint when directly interfacing with the server.  In re-reviewing 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions it does look like section 12 “Redirects” 
includes some guidance related to query parameters, where I believe it would be 
beneficial to have a separate query parameter section in 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions.
  3.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-x-media-type B.2.4 “Architectural Violations” and 
B.3 “RDAP Extension Versioning” could be removed, since I don’t see how the use 
of a query parameter in RDAP would be considered an architectural violation and 
RDAP Extension Versioning will be worked on in parallel in 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning.
  4.  draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning (This should have been 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions)
     *   In section 8 “Extension Versioning”, I just want to confirm that 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning address the normative language and if not 
what needs to be added:

                                                              i.      “If a 
future RFC defines a versioning scheme (such as using the mechanims defined in 
section Section 
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 an RDAP extension definition MUST explicitly denote this compliance.”

     *   Section 8.1 “Backwards-Compatible Changes”

                                                              i.      This 
section may not be needed with draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning, since the set 
of supported extension versions are explicitly specified, where in the case of 
Opaque Versioning the server could support many versions of the extension.

     *   Section 8.2 “Backwards-Incompatible Changes”

                                                              i.      IT would 
be helpful to include the reference to draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning as an 
option to consider in signaling support for more than one version of an 
extension.

     *   Section 9 “Extension Identifiers in a Response”

                                                              i.      You can 
update the reference of [I-D.gould-regext-rdap-versioning] to be 
[I-D.draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning].
Thanks,

--

JG

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Fellow Engineer
jgo...@verisign.com<applewebdata://13890C55-AAE8-4BF3-A6CE-B4BA42740803/jgo...@verisign.com>

703-948-3271
12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190

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