Thanks, this all looks good.  I'll send it to Last Call when a new version
appears.

-MSK

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 7:48 AM Gould, James <jgo...@verisign.com> wrote:

> Murray,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the review.  My feedback is included embedded below.  We can
> post draft-ietf-regext-rdap-redacted-14 once you agree with the needed
> updates.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> JG
>
>
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>
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>
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>
> *From: *regext <regext-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of "Murray S.
> Kucherawy" <superu...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 7:38 PM
> *To: *"regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
> *Cc: *"a...@hxr.us" <a...@hxr.us>, Gustavo Lozano <
> gustavo.loz...@icann.org>, "regext-cha...@ietf.org" <
> regext-cha...@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Publication has been requested for
> draft-ietf-regext-rdap-redacted-13
>
>
>
> AD evaluation:
>
> Thanks, Andy, for a good shepherd writeup.  It would be helpful, even if
> it seems redundant or obvious, to include an answer to the question about
> why Proposed Standard is the right status for this document.
>
>
>
> The first paragraph of Section 3 is a bit confusing; it says you MUST NOT
> use any placeholder text as a replacement for a redacted value, and then I
> read the next sentence to suggest that there might actually be valid
> replacement placeholder text although it might not conform to the expected
> syntax.  But on a second read, I think you're telling me that the reason
> it's MUST NOT is because there could be a syntax mismatch which could upset
> parsers.  If that's correct, I suggest combining the sentences with
> "because" or "since".
>
>
>
> JG – You are correct, the format mismatch is one reason for the MUST NOT.
> The sentences can be combined to read:
>
>
>
> “The use of placeholder text for the values of the RDAP fields, such as
> the placeholder text "XXXX", MUST NOT be used for redaction, since the
> placeholder text value may not match the format requirements of each of the
> RDAP fields and provides an inconsistent and unreliable redaction signal.”
>
>
>
> In Section 3.2, why are these two SHOULDs not MUSTs?  What's the choice
> being offered here, and what guidance should we provide?  Same question for
> the one in Section 3.3.
>
>
>
> JG – I don’t see an issue with changing the SHOULDs in Section 3.2 to
> MUSTs, since I don’t see a good alternative approach to what is defined in
> the draft.
>
>
>
> Doesn't the method of Section 3.4 directly conflict with the MUST NOT in
> Section 3 (referenced above)?
>
>
>
> JG – No, since the replace value is not pre-defined placeholder text that
> meant to signal redaction, such as the use of the placeholder value
> “REDACTED”.  The replacement value provides a proxy to the real value for
> privacy reasons.  Technically, it’s not redacted but the redaction
> extension is used to signal that the real value has been replaced for use
> in visualization or processing by the client.
>
>
>
> Also in Section 3.4, s/alternate/alternative/
>
>
>
> JG – Thanks, that will be addressed.
>
>
>
> In Section 4.2, for "prePath" and "postPath", this is a JSON path
> expression, not a JSON expression, correct?
>
>
>
> JG – Yes, you are correct, it is referred to as a JSON path expression
> with the “pathLang”.  We can replace the references of “JSON expression”
> with “JSON path expression”.
>
>
>
> In Section 6.2, I suggest being precise: You're talking about the "RDAP
> JSON Values" registry.
>
>
>
> JG – Yes, it is represented as the “RDAP JSON Values” registry in IANA (
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/rdap-json-values/rdap-json-values.xhtml),
> but Section 10.2 of RFC 9083 is titled “JSON Values Registry”.  We can
> change the reference to “RDAP JSON Values Registry” instead of “JSON Values
> Registry” if that is better.
>
>
>
> Thanks for including Section 7.
>
>
>
> -MSK, ART AD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:24 AM James Galvin via Datatracker <
> nore...@ietf.org> wrote:
>
> James Galvin has requested publication of
> draft-ietf-regext-rdap-redacted-13 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the
> REGEXT working group.
>
> Please verify the document's state at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-rdap-redacted/
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