Thanks Tom,

I reviewed and looks good.
As to the IRR queries: Fair enough to me to have them in a separate document. 
It was just a suggestion.

Regards,

Antoin (no hat)



> Op 2 mei 2023, om 01:17 heeft Tom Harrison <t...@apnic.net> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Antoin,
> 
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 10:37:54AM +0200, Antoin Verschuren wrote:
>> I have read this draft, and have some comments/requests as discussed
>> during our IETF 116 meeting session.
>> Most of my remarks are about section 4, Link Relations:
>> 
>> 1. Suggest to replace “operator” with “server operator” to clarify
>> the RDAP terminology of a client-server relation in this document.
>> Especially in the last paragraph of section 4 this will prevent
>> confusion that the normative language applies to the server
>> operator, as the client has no notion of where in the hierarchy he
>> is when making a query.
> 
> Thanks, this has now been updated.
> 
>> 2. With regards to the hierarchy itself, there are 2 use cases that
>> can be served better:
>> Most common use cases are:
>> 
>> -Where is address space used when querying an IP address or prefix
>> Usually, this is the assignment of address space, which is recorded
>> in the bottom of the hierarchy that whois usually presents by
>> default.
>> -Who is responsible for maintaining the address space registration
>> when querying an IP address or prefix.
>> Usually this is the allocation of address space that is responsible
>> for administration and f.e. creating RPKI ROAs, which is the top of
>> the hierarchy in the INR registry.
>> 
>> Instead of reiteratively querying “up’ and “down” relations until
>> you reach the top or bottom of the hierarchy, I want to suggest to
>> add a “top” and “bottom” relationship query to immediately reach
>> those objects. Some language should be there that Top and Bottom
>> mean top and bottom of the hierarchy of the specific INR, not to
>> include f.e. imported IANA or other parent IR allocations.
> 
> There are now extra link relations for these cases.  "top" and
> "bottom" return the objects at the top and bottom of the hierarchy
> regardless of whether they are "actual" delegations or not.  For
> finding the "top" delegation that is an actual delegation to an
> account holder at an RIR, there is an additional link relation called
> "top-active", indicating that the object is the top object with a
> status of "active".  (The separate RDAP profile for RIRs requires that
> such delegations have a status of "active": see
> https://bitbucket.org/nroecg/nro-rdap-profile/raw/v1/nro-rdap-profile.txt.)
> 
>> 3. We discussed that IRR objects that are often also registered in
>> RIR databases may be out of scope for this document as the aim for
>> this document is to replace most common whois queries. However, some
>> RIRs (RIPE, APNIC) include IRR data (f.e. route objects) by default
>> in whois responses for IP address space, and ASN/autnum objects
>> returned in whois queries also contain IRR data in the objects
>> itself in the form of import/export statements in the autumn object.
>> If the aim is to replace whois queries, including RPSL responses,
>> than maybe we should discuss including optional query/response
>> definitions for AS-SET and Route Objects?
> 
> We agree with Andy's comments here generally, so we think that if this
> work happens, it would be better done as a separate document.
> 
> -Tom

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