Scott,

Thanks Scott.  Yes, the draft is meant to be narrowly scoped to support either 
an SMPTUTF8 or ASCII address without the intent of changing the cardinality 
from 1 to two or 1 to N.  If there is the need to support a new extension to 
change the cardinality for one or more object mappings, that can be done.

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JG

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 3:04 PM
To: James Gould <jgo...@verisign.com>, "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai Path Forward

I see the value in supporting multiple email addresses from a protocol 
perspective. If, however, the purpose of this draft is narrowly scoped such 
that the goal is to support either a single SMTPUTF8 or ASCII address, I can 
support option #1. That probably means that we need to think about future work 
to support multiple email addresses.

Scott

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I’ve discussed the path forward for draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai with some working 
group participates and I have concern of the current path that the draft is 
taking with the support for an alternate e-mail address, whether it be either 
ASCII, SMTPUTF8, or either.  There are system and policy impacts associated 
with the requirement to collect and transmit an additional e-mail address 
across EPP RFCs (e.g., RFC 5733, RFC 7848, RFC 8543), where the end goal of 
draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai was to support the use of SMTPUTF8 e-mail values with 
the appropriate signaling by the server and client.  I realize that the term 
“cardinality” was not popular with some, but the inclusion of an alternative 
e-mail across all EPP extensions that include an e-mail address does make a 
crosscutting cardinality change from one to two.  The registry needs to support 
either ASCII or SMTPUTF8 addresses to enable the registrars, which have the 
relationship with the registrant, to make the decision what form of e-mail to 
accept.  In hindsight, I believe the “Change of Cardinality to One or Two 
(ASCII or SMTPUTF8)” recommendation from the IETF-115 REGEXT meeting that was 
incorporated into draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-17 is the wrong option.  We should 
keep the cardinality of one to provide the needed support for SMTPUTF8 in the 
registry for the registrars to make the decision what to collect and pass to 
the registry.  I provide the options below for consideration by the working 
group:

1.       Cardinality of One – The approach taken in 
draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-16, where the server (registry) supports either 
SMTPUTF8 or ASCII addresses for a decision by the client (registrar).

2.       Cardinality of Two – The approach taken in 
draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-17, where the server (registry) supports an 
alternative email element during a transition period that requires one email 
element to be ASCII.  There are two sub-options based on the recent discussion:

a.       Alternative Email can be ASCII or SMTPUTF8

b.       Alternative Email is only ASCII
My preference is Cardinality of One that would roll back to 
draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-16.  Please respond to the mailing list with your 
preference or any other options that should be considered.
Thanks,

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JG

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