On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, at 15:09, Eduardo Duarte wrote:
> EPP is about 20 years old and I 
> think it needs some reshaping to the actual Internet state. 

Is the EPP *transport* really where people struggle most? Ok, XML over TLS 
might not be the current trendy couple in Internet circles, but among all the 
problems I see in EPP (having worked both on registrar and registry side), I 
really do not have the transport in my top 10.
The plethora of extensions to do the same thing, and the various "quality" of 
extensions is more of a concern to me, as well as the non-existent 
discoverability of features (there is one extension solving part of the 
problem, not used by everyone). Or the lack of standardization in error 
codes/messages/details extended from core case. Or the now not good enough 
design of a contact. Or operations being mixed where they shouldn't (like 
restore in update).

We barely arrived only a few months ago to have "fees" finally being a 
standard... and it
will take years before all registries switch to it. This is certainly where 
registrars struggle more than just having to use a TLS "socket" (I count around 
28 versions of the fees document, for 18 different XML namespaces with more 
than a couple of them really used in the wild).

Said differently, the transport part seems to me really the easy part of the 
problem of EPP viewed globally. Of course, if that blocks some actors, then the 
working group is certainly the relevant place to find out a standardized 
solution, but will really a lot of registries suddenly switch to it just for 
the sake of switching to it?

Or: what EPP over TCP and/or a REST redesign really add as new features, 
solving current problems? Besides "it looks similar to the rest of the 
Internet, so it will attract more/better programmers" (a statement I would 
certainly have an hard time to believe) or "the crappy hosting I am using only 
allows HTTPS servers/clients and nothing else, so now I have to adapt my whole 
word just because I chose a bad system from the beginning".

Just my personal views of course.

-- 
  Patrick Mevzek
  p...@dotandco.com

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