> Le 7 déc. 2021 à 08:35, Hollenbeck, Scott > <shollenbeck=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org> a écrit : > > We can *certainly* do that, Mario. It’s the option I support because there is > a cost to replace a jCard implementation once it’s been implemented and > deployed. Make it an optional extension and let server operators decide > if/when they want to make the change. > > I note that this will make life more difficult for client implementors > because they’ll have to support both formats.
But the genie is already out of the bottle… I.e. if one have done a client implementation, it has already support for jCard. Adding the JSContact is just more code. There will be only less work if one is implementing a client in the future after the whole ecosystem had moved to JSContact, therefore no need to implement jCard, which is still a good win, as I guess that many haven’t implemented a client yet since whois is still dominant and RDAP is not yet at the same level. > “Be liberal in what you accept” applies. yes. Marc. > > Scott > > From: regext <regext-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org>> On > Behalf Of Mario Loffredo > Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 3:45 AM > To: Antoin Verschuren <ietf=40antoin...@dmarc.ietf.org > <mailto:ietf=40antoin...@dmarc.ietf.org>>; regext@ietf.org > <mailto:regext@ietf.org> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] New Version Notification for > draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04.txt > > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > Hi all, > > maybe I'm missing something but is there anybody explaining me why we can > have two standards for the email address in EPP but we cannot have two > standards for the contact card in RDAP ? > > I admit that the reasons supporting the two documents are different but their > matters appear very similar to me. > > Using JSContact inside RDAP is basically an extension. > > If we remove stages 3 and 4 of the transition from the document, we simply > have an RDAP extension that is or isn't implemented by a server. > > This extension can be firstly signaled by the server, then requested by the > client and consequently returned by the server just as it happens for the EAI > extension in the EPP context. > > > > Best, > > Mario > > > > Il 06/12/2021 15:29, Antoin Verschuren ha scritto: > Hi all, > > In addition to the questions from Mario, we still need to discuss the status > of this document as discussed during the IETF112 meeting: > > "the document doesn’t have designated status; it was adopted without a status > (on purpose). We need to think about the implications. Encouraged group to > discuss/comment on the list” > > Meaning that because jCard is not depreciated with publishing this document, > what will the status of this document be? We cannot have 2 standards, so we > need to say something about it. > > Jim and Antoin > > > > Op 27 nov. 2021, om 09:04 heeft Mario Loffredo <mario.loffr...@iit.cnr.it > <mailto:mario.loffr...@iit.cnr.it>> het volgende geschreven: > > Hi folks, > this new version addresses the feedback provided by Jasdip except for the > following two points left for WG discussion: > 1) In the sentence "To aid interoperability, RDAP providers are RECOMMENDED > to use as map keys the following string values and labels defined in > [RFC5733].", should "are RECOMMNEDED to" be replaced with "MUST"? > 2) Does the portion of the spec for jCard to JSContact transition signaling > add significant implementation overhead for RDAP servers and clients? Could > an out-of-band (OOB) method have been employed? > > Three more implementations were included. > > Best, > Mario > > > -------- Messaggio Inoltrato -------- > Oggetto: > New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04.txt > Data: > Fri, 26 Nov 2021 23:53:34 -0800 > Mittente: > internet-dra...@ietf.org <mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org> > A: > Gavin Brown <gavin.br...@centralnic.com> <mailto:gavin.br...@centralnic.com>, > Mario Loffredo <mario.loffr...@iit.cnr.it> <mailto:mario.loffr...@iit.cnr.it> > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04.txt > has been successfully submitted by Mario Loffredo and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact > Revision: 04 > Title: Using JSContact in Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) JSON > Responses > Document date: 2021-11-26 > Group: regext > Pages: 22 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04.txt > <https://secure-web.cisco.com/14C9FIzXAabWencuKkfeJHEUIspLRA3vKcibCBAn8d6rkSbdYnSlsiivk7_oUmXQiIKRVCeKBoIDfjtlNpBiGfsi1PYLN0guFFNdge8oKVYz6sXAITU-c__KkrKSASh9QNhhFSeMaT6o6kXpXMVVkE-fyj3F3QS3OTDvB4JVlWfq8dGbZRLGThn8FN_LZeLxvQ9ZmV0FqwGDFJ8mXwVlTVQxJtYbbKqrrOg-cHPfsTfHI-tfNGBMYc1oCo-KJEcGIHyTr_xWrRVBt57TP3og1_A/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Farchive%2Fid%2Fdraft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04.txt> > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact/ > <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ru0-ukndBHr35j11l7TbzmcTICx_vW_UQOtspG2s5fWR1GXL52pq0EC23L3tkJmBK5rMBoeqT5l47yNp3xo6Yutj7La8950_hN_dglrdl1Wqg6Y8PZlcu-xEQkAEAwqd76o1XeILDPsEUWg7dW9u64Q4iei9aIGwWTp7cUI9FqbJ2aUAuVdJgV0RPgFJKQThqkbObsmeflT9zKfz5JYvMDgFRzKCpbPao7vM1qgFWyKtM-YRzYVytjeOD8DgVFy8_4N1HWyM_54nYGP3GeATZQ/https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact%2F> > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact > <https://secure-web.cisco.com/19TI1J3mToiqQ92UliYRU_hu5X08ToLlRGxwP8aqK3SiGaTvoACCTy9fbITG9yHefpzqE6bHt0SiRSne9fUisRHRTvPoX7pQj4sR_gOGtU2Ai8l5Fr87A-YMhBPSCHKnS0bGvxZacNYJyAQHP0agmTIU4FVEA3YXGF-bq9ou85JQD9lMj6DeUw7hUwPPgOYGbxtxkzia8cOuNqpC0LVoV4BhnmEBBBR_HcThbu-frBham9kJdJzrISQ0RiWb5ToqtRbdxh6ynyhhsCPGeOiGKVw/https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact> > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04 > <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1EBi9cZtxmsU5k8EO3QiMXQAVKWxjJRNxRZI2yMoKbE6LJrtOf0rFSk0N1ixGBZqTpwdKgibLHfjsg3vEtYKVY7S38JyvZPiW1NRRHeh7XNV8R2wBHWf6tLdSdboMOrh6QK1Qf4kqltCfG9QO8uNO2fFh9D2LCkn7RRzmucDBpQQ5Jsn0ty53Q0c1d5O0_fq73wytVBuQA-r8BT0-u0ZrSGDn7r6B811efV9mfKLw5YvP7pwOZ5mCbYdEJwgF-I1fVPPnvXTNTRyWHDpR6yExkw/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Frfcdiff%3Furl2%3Ddraft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact-04> > > Abstract: > This document describes an RDAP extension which represents entity > contact information in JSON responses using JSContact. > > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > _______________________________________________ > regext mailing list > regext@ietf.org <mailto:regext@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext > <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Gi22wRMnaHCD8TuzZKbXz7KGwFyaZmuiSLrDsh5SG3OhkvKtshKQW0FgCMwx4sEMEhVgeXvE0ltyMXpuHg1stdpoHQQxxuJtP6ByYkMyMnTwcFMz_8WuxprOfldERyYwXs_KgqUPzuJQ3PLFPg3x2ZEQBOs82jQ1OeRNUOuDmqhMwDZCw0WaV2QbiIIAxopz5TIko-CWnCSqlMI7zBjWLkSGikhdrnpEVmhR0ZIxl0GHKmQ7y5Rjfgr5gVZ7iIw89StNME_YufpahpysKAQ5zQ/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fregext> > > > > _______________________________________________ > regext mailing list > regext@ietf.org <mailto:regext@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext > <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Gi22wRMnaHCD8TuzZKbXz7KGwFyaZmuiSLrDsh5SG3OhkvKtshKQW0FgCMwx4sEMEhVgeXvE0ltyMXpuHg1stdpoHQQxxuJtP6ByYkMyMnTwcFMz_8WuxprOfldERyYwXs_KgqUPzuJQ3PLFPg3x2ZEQBOs82jQ1OeRNUOuDmqhMwDZCw0WaV2QbiIIAxopz5TIko-CWnCSqlMI7zBjWLkSGikhdrnpEVmhR0ZIxl0GHKmQ7y5Rjfgr5gVZ7iIw89StNME_YufpahpysKAQ5zQ/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fregext> > -- > Dr. Mario Loffredo > Technological Unit “Digital Innovation” > Institute of Informatics and Telematics (IIT) > National Research Council (CNR) > via G. 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