> Le 14 juill. 2021 à 09:26, Gould, James <jgo...@verisign.com> a écrit :
>
> Marc,
>
> Precedence has been set in JSON Values Registry of RFC 9083 with the “notice
> and remark type” to support an enumerated set of notices and remarks with the
> use of the “type” field. If a similar approach was taken for the reason in
> draft-gould-regext-rdap-redacted, the reason member would need to be
> restructured in a similar fashion to the “notices” and “remarks” in RFC 9083.
> Meaning make it a JSON object with a optional “description” member and an
> optional “type” member, where the “type” member will match the registered
> type in the JSON Values Registry. We would then need to add a new JSON
> Values Registry type for redaction reasons to enable the registration of
> them. I recommend adding the JSON Values Registry type “redaction reason”
> for this purpose. The optional “reason” member would then look like the
> following:
>
> # Reason with an unregistered description
> "reason" :
> {
> “description” : “Client request”
> }
>
> # Reason with only a registered type
> “reason” :
> {
> “type” : “Client request"
> }
>
> # Reason with both a registered type and a description
> “reason” :
> {
> “type” : “Client request"
> “description” : “Client requested to have the field redacted”
> }
>
> Does this look consistent with the approach taken in RFC 9083 and address
> your feedback?
Fine by me! Much better to me.
Marc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> JG
>
> <image001.png>
>
> James Gould
> Fellow Engineer
> jgo...@verisign.com
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>
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> From: Marc Blanchet <marc.blanc...@viagenie.ca>
> Date: Monday, July 12, 2021 at 7:41 AM
> To: James Gould <jgo...@verisign.com>
> Cc: "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] New Version Notification for
> draft-gould-regext-rdap-redacted-00.txt
>
>
>> Le 12 juill. 2021 à 07:26, Gould, James <jgo...@verisign.com
>> <mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>> a écrit :
>>
>>
>> - I really would like to have an IANA registry for the « reason »
>> property. Because this would be potentially displayed to the user, and to
>> avoid having all variations of the same reason in different words. A
>> registry of reserved words would also facilitate translation in multiple
>> languages.
>>
>> We had a desire to stay away from needing to setup an IANA registry for
>> redaction. I view the reason property as not a good candidate for an IANA
>> registry, since it's meant to be a human readable informational value
>
> Fine but that does not preclude the use of an IANA registry with reserved
> text. We already have that:
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/rdap-json-values/rdap-json-values.xhtml
> <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1CpBTBaAbWXShtu3I3CgJpJu24mEs9ljN-JZFzuDsQTI3FxgaWMmOrd_t3tvEV72gkQmb5znPpgnRyT4kmZRJDIqFHqcz9Bbyvg57xwiJfZd-N4xqddAw5eLmk_K28myevtwarkxyyRc3Nrd_Hv17G7Ps-CwKFwcGPyigFJVrP1aZw9RCvarhO-h-GExrL1MsE7pkowpYOR3h_QrlwfnEBqhicohhvS7BpAyyBnWL6VIuEMdEN5HFDNJ_DAAljli3/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org%2Fassignments%2Frdap-json-values%2Frdap-json-values.xhtml>.
> We can even reuse the same registry and add some rows. Client processing,
> with reserved words, can act upon: displaying nice icons instead of long
> words for example. It can also be internationalized. If it is human
> readable, then that means the server has to send all the languages
> translations. Not great. I’m sure that we can standardized those reason
> values to less than a dozen.
>
> Marc.
>
>> that includes normative language not to be used as a client processing
>> dependency. This is a good discussion item.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>>
>> JG
>>
>>
>>
>> James Gould
>> Fellow Engineer
>> jgo...@verisign.com <mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>
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>>
>> 703-948-3271
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>> Reston, VA 20190
>>
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>>
>> On 7/12/21, 7:15 AM, "Marc Blanchet" <marc.blanc...@viagenie.ca
>> <mailto:marc.blanc...@viagenie.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> Just read it. Goooood. We need it. (Specially with my hat of RDAP client
>> app).
>>
>> Some early comments:
>> - would be good to include specific text about jscontact, so when we
>> switch to it, this document does not need rev.
>> - I really would like to have an IANA registry for the « reason »
>> property. Because this would be potentially displayed to the user, and to
>> avoid having all variations of the same reason in different words. A
>> registry of reserved words would also facilitate translation in multiple
>> languages.
>>
>> Really would like this document to move forward. As RDAP client
>> implementor, I would like to implement it. If some servers are already
>> implementing it, please contact me directly so we can do some interop
>> testing.
>>
>> Marc.
>>
>>
>>> Le 12 juill. 2021 à 07:02, Gould, James
>>> <jgould=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org
>>> <mailto:jgould=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> The "Redacted Fields in the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP)
>>> Response" draft-gould-regext-rdap-redacted has been published. The goal of
>>> the draft is to describe an RDAP extension for explicitly identifying
>>> redacted RDAP response fields, using JSONPath as the default expression
>>> language. Any review and feedback is welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> JG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James Gould
>>> Fellow Engineer
>>> jgo...@verisign.com <mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>
>>> <applewebdata://13890C55-AAE8-4BF3-A6CE-B4BA42740803/jgo...@verisign.com
>>> <applewebdata://13890C55-AAE8-4BF3-A6CE-B4BA42740803/jgo...@verisign.com>>
>>>
>>> 703-948-3271
>>> 12061 Bluemont Way
>>> Reston, VA 20190
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On 7/12/21, 6:47 AM, "internet-dra...@ietf.org
>>> <mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org>" <internet-dra...@ietf.org
>>> <mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-gould-regext-rdap-redacted-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by James Gould and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name: draft-gould-regext-rdap-redacted
>>> Revision: 00
>>> Title: Redacted Fields in the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP)
>>> Response
>>> Document date: 2021-07-12
>>> Group: Individual Submission
>>> Pages: 24
>>> URL:
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>> This document describes an RDAP extension for explicitly identifying
>>> redacted RDAP response fields, using JSONPath as the default
>>> expression language.
>>>
>>>
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