Hi Tobias,

let me disagree with you about some conclusions. My comments are inline.

Il 25/01/2019 23:05, Tobias Sattler ha scritto:
Hi everyone,

After seeing the result of the vote, I, as a representative of a domain 
registrar, must express my serious concern about the RDAP Reverse Search 
document.

A reverse search enables third parties to query RDAP, among other things, so 
that all associated domains can be queried using an email address. I consider 
this to be very questionable for data protection reasons.

I would agree with you if that capability was available to any user and if there were no operators entitled to use it. But this is not the case. Reverse search is an example of a capability which should be provided to legitimated users according to the policies described in RFC7481. The current implementation of reverse search by .it public test server is fully GDPR compliant. Currently, it is allowed only to .it registrars searching for their own domains. They can submit a reverse search because they can rely on the "contract" lawful basis.  In the next future, we plan to extend its availability to other legitimated users (e.g. authorities, police).

The conclusion is: the specification is neutral, the implementations are subject to laws about privacy, but this occurs exactly in the same way as other internet protocols.

In addition, such queries can lead to a very high load and strongly influence 
other systems - depending on the implementation of the service.
This capability has the same impact on servers of standard search queries and RDAP providers can  implement additional features to make search queries as sustainable as possible (see partial response and pagination).

Furthermore, as far as I know, there is currently no requirement for such 
functionality - neither from ICANN nor from other registries / registrars. 
Which is why I want to suggest that this document should not be adopted for now.

This is the crucial issue. Do most of the WG members agree that this capability is really helpful ? According to the doodle results, it seems so.

As far as I know, the reverse search concept has been around in TLDs community since time. However, the implementation in EPP of the so called "non provisioning operations" have been considered unpractical. Therefore some registries (including .it) have implemented custom solutions based on out-of-band mechanisms. Now, I think that the interest in reverse search still exists and RDAP seems suitable enough to enable a standardised approach.


Regards,

mario


Best regards,
Tobias

On 18. Jan 2019, at 17:00, James Galvin <gal...@elistx.com> wrote:

The DOODLE was officially closed Friday.  There was additional person who 
selected documents bringing the total number of contributors to 21.  The 
additional selections did not material change the ranking of the choices.

Based on raw numbers, the following 5 documents are preferred:

14 Federated Authentication for RDAP
9 RDAP Partial Response
8 RDAP Reverse Search
8 RDAP Sorting and Paging
8 Login Security

For completeness, I will also observe that if you take out the “maybe” votes, 
the ranking does not change.

The chairs are making the following assumption at this point: if you selected a 
document then you will work on the document.  This assumption should be 
addressed when you vote to adopt a document, where we will ask you to make it 
explicit.

The next thing that is needed is to formally adopt these documents and to set 
milestones for them.  In addition, recall that we agreed with our area director 
to have only 5 milestones open at a time.  Here is the process we will use to 
achieve these two goals.

1. The chairs will send out a call for adoption for each of the documents.  
Folks MUST respond and either agree or disagree with the adoption of each 
document.  Instructions will be in each message.

2. There are two milestones on our list that do not match these 5 documents.  
The chairs will send out a call for objections to removing those two milestones 
from our list.

3. After we have adopted our documents we will start a discussion of setting 
the milestones for the adopted documents.

Thanks to those who participated in the Doodle poll.

Antoin and Jim




On 21 Dec 2018, at 11:13, James Galvin wrote:

Please take the time to select the documents you support for advancement in 
this working group.

https://doodle.com/poll/6nyguby3yr8dx9cp

Please select from 1-5 documents.

If you click once in the box a green check mark will appear.  Use this to 
indicate support for a document.  If you click twice in the box a yellow check 
mark in parentheses will appear.  You may use the yellow check mark to indicate 
support that is a lower priority than a green check mark.

For your convenience I have included the list of documents and their links 
below.

This selection process will remain open for 3 weeks, until 11 January 2019.

Enjoy your holiday season!  See you all next year!

Jim


DOCUMENTS TO CONSIDER

Registry Reporting Repository
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcpherson-sattler-registry-reporting-repo/

Registry Reporting Structure
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcpherson-sattler-registry-report-structure/

Domain Fee Report
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sattler-registry-domain-fee-report/

Registry Transaction Report
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcpherson-sattler-ry-transaction-report/

Registry Domain Inventory Report
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sattler-registry-domain-inventory-report/

Registry Domain Drop Report
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sattler-registry-domain-drop-report

Registry Unavailable Domain Report
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sattler-registry-unavailable-domain-report/

Registry Maintenance Notifications
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sattler-epp-registry-maintenance/

Unhandled Namespaces
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gould-casanova-regext-unhandled-namespaces

Data Set File Format
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-regext-dataset/

Login Security
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-regext-login-security/

Federated Authentication for RDAP
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-regext-rdap-openid/

RDAP Partial Response
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-partial-response/

RDAP Search
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fregly-regext-rdap-search-regex/

RDAP Reverse Search
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search/

RDAP Sorting and Paging
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-sorting-and-paging/

Registry Data Escrow Specification
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arias-noguchi-registry-data-escrow/

Domain Name Registration Data (DNRD) Objects Mapping
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arias-noguchi-dnrd-objects-mapping/

Third Party DNS Operator to Registrar/Registry
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-dnsoperator-to-rrr-protocol/

Validate
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-validate/

Verification Code
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode/
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