Op 28 mei 2018, om 22:48 heeft Patrick Mevzek <p...@dotandco.com> het volgende 
geschreven:

> In your quote you missed the other part which is basically: all domain names 
> are not under ICANN policies.

I didn’t want to go in that discussion, but I’m on your side on that one.

> So for all other TLDs currently can you let me know which protocol 
> limitations currently forbid registry to add formatted content in their whois 
> or, let us say just decide to implement RDAP to start with? Do you really 
> think there are almost none because of protocol limitations, especially in 
> the EPP channel, or maybe for other reasons?

Perhaps it’s not only protocol limitations, or perhaps limitation the wrong 
word, it’s more the pinpointed ICANN RRR model I think that can only be 
provisioned for now.
I remember a CENTR meeting where ccTLD’s tried to get consensus over if we 
could harmonize EPP extensions so registrars would not have to code differently 
for every TLD.
This was before EPPEXT existed.
We all thought this would be a good idea.
But half the registries concluded that they wanted to stick to their own 
extensions because they felt local legislation or their local constituencies 
required them so, and the other half had the standpoint that they would only 
implement as followers, after extensions would be standardized.

Again Patrick, I share your concern of complexity, and we shouldn’t build 
something nobody uses.
I also shared your concern for double labeling both at the organization and 
link level, but James managed to convince me it’s a choice between two bad’s 
where the responsibility of registrars over records they maintain outscores 
double entries in the database for organizations that do anything for anybody.

The reseller draft was originally requested and supported by cnnic, sidn and 
dns belgium who also had the intend to implement. If not this standard then 
their own extension.
Other registries didn’t immediately acknowledge the need for resellers unless 
mandated by (ICANN) policy, but there was consensus that if we were to 
standardize something to accommodate resellers, it should be reusable for other 
emerging "Internet identifier registration related roles" as well. This was not 
only TLD registries that had an opinion, and I remember some hesitation 
especially by ICANN registrars as well because they didn't want extra work, but 
third party dns-operators, ICANN related policy makers, RIR’s, registrants and 
plain IETF protocol guardians also have an equal voice in the IETF process, 
even though they don’t implement.


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