--On Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:20 -0500 Andrew Newton <a...@hxr.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:13 AM, John C Klensin > <john-i...@jck.com> wrote: >> >> Unless there are considerations that I don't understand, I >> agree with Frank and would go a step further. While the >> document indicates that IRIS was not actually deployed for >> address registry usage, as far as I know it has not been >> deployed for anything else either and has become part of the >> wreckage along the path to try to replace Whois for registry >> database use. > > My understanding is that DCHK did get deployed by two domain > registries. I do not know if they still use it though. Even if they do, a move to Historic and/or Obsolete doesn't change their situation, it is just an implicit recommendation that others should not rush out to deploy this or even actively consider it as a option. If something more nuanced is needed, it is probably time to write an A/S and have this particular registry/ subdomain removal be part of that. >> If the intent here is to say "we have given up on IRIS" >> (probably just recognizing what has happened historically), >> then we should be formally obsoleting all of the IRIS >> documents at the same time (and/or moving them to Historic) >> so they are no longer listed as Proposed Standards and >> implicitly recommended. That means at least RFC 4698 but also >> 4414 and the original protocol specifications (3982-3983). >> That would require broadening the scope of this document >> somewhat and adjusting its title but, having skimmed through >> it, would not require significant work. > > In my opinion, "we have given up on IRIS" is the proper thing > to say. Sad although probably right. It was and remains, at least in my opinion, a nice piece of work. That actually leads to another commend, which is that I'd much rather see a document like this say something equivalent to "overtaken by events" or "use no longer recommended" rather than "deprecated". best, john _______________________________________________ regext mailing list regext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext