Dear james,

I don't know if a further clarification is needed about the change of the address property. For me it is clear that, since cc and city are mandatory, the only way to change an address is to define a new address reporting all the relevant information (mandatory or not). In this case, the lack of an optional field (previously not-empty) means it will be considered empty.


Mario.


Il 31/03/2017 17:24, Gould, James ha scritto:

Thomas,

Thanks for the response. My feedback is embedded below. I’ve updated the proposal based on your feedback:

1.The <contact:chg> sub-elements do have replace semantics

a.Existing sub-element data deleted first and then set with updated data.

b.This includes the <contact:postalInfo>, <contact:voice>, <contact:fax>, <contact:email>, <contact:authInfo>, and the <contact:disclose> elements.

c.Servers with special policies regarding contact data modifications should check the new data for any actual changes in relevant fields.

2.The typed <contact:postalInfo> elements (“int” or “loc”) are treated independently

a.Exclusion of a <contact:postalInfo> type (“int” or “loc”) does not implicitly delete it

3.The typed <contact:postalInfo> element (“int” or “loc”) is deleted explicitly via an empty element

a.<contact:postalInfo type=”int”/> or <contact:postalInfo type=”loc”/>

b.The same applies to deleting the voice or the fax via an empty element (<contact:voice/> or <contact:fax/>)

Let me know if any other changes are needed.

Thanks,

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On 3/31/17, 10:15 AM, "regext on behalf of Thomas Corte" <regext-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of thomas.co...@knipp.de> wrote:

    Hello James,

    On 31/03/2017 16:00, Gould, James wrote:

> As an action item from the REGEXT WG meeting yesterday, I’m including my

> proposal for handling the EPP RFC 5733 <contact:postalInfo> element on an

    > update:

    >

> 1. The <contact:chg> sub-elements do have */replace/* semantics

    >

    > a.       Existing sub-element data deleted first and then set with

    > updated data.

    >

    > b.      This includes the <contact:postalInfo>, <contact:voice>,

    > <contact:fax>, <contact:email>, <contact:authInfo>, and the

    > <contact:disclose> elements.

    >

    > 2.      The typed <contact:postalInfo> elements (“int” or “loc”) are

    > treated independently

    >

> a. Exclusion of a <contact:postalInfo> type (“int” or “loc”) does

    > not implicitly delete it

    >

    > 3.      The typed <contact:postalInfo> element (“int” or “loc”) is

    > deleted explicitly via an empty element

    >

> a. <contact:postalInfo type=”int”/> or <contact:postalInfo type=”loc”/>

    >

> Please comment on the proposal to help clarify the interpretation of EPP

    > RFC 5733.

I agree with this interpretation. For the avoidance of (further) doubt,

it might make sense to mention that the deletion of voice and fax numbers

    is also done via empty elements, i.e. like this:

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

    <epp xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp-1.0">

      <command>

        <update>

          <update xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:contact-1.0">

<id>HANDLE-1</id>

            <chg>

              <voice/>

              <fax/>

            </chg>

          </update>

        </update>

<clTRID>ABC-12345</clTRID>

      </command>

    </epp>

JG – Yes, I included a reference to the voice and fax as well.

    Also, with these clarified semantics it's no longer possible to e.g.

    change a contact's name while retaining its organization without

explicitly repeating the previous organization value. Therefore, I'd also

    suggest to put in some wording stressing that servers with special

policies regarding contact data modifications should check the new data

    for any actual changes in relevant fields.

JG – Done, I borrowed you wording with this.

    I'm suggesting this because some registries (most notably CNNIC) have

    special contact validation policies, so that e.g. certain registrant

    contact changes may trigger a re-validation, or might not even be

    allowed. At the moment, a contact update that needs to retain the

    organization for a CNNIC contact *must* be sent with the <org> element

missing from the <update> request, otherwise the server assumes a change

(even if the submitted value is identical to the currently present one)

and triggers re-validation or rejects the update. The wording therefore

should clarify that servers must not assume an actual data change just on

    the basis that an element is present in the <postalInfo> element;

    instead, the actual data must be compared to the current data in the

    repository.

JG – I believe you proposed wording for #1 above should cover this use case.

    Best regards,

    Thomas

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