thanks for the reply.  I have a Logitech Wheel USB mouse, and I'm using a USB port.  I 
also have a CD-RW drive on the other USB port, and come to think of it, I don't 
remember it initializing during the restart like usual.  Eventhough I know I checked 
for USB support during make xconfig.  

I guess I'll take a look around at the configuration again.  See, I was under the 
impression that make oldconfig would set things up just like I had them now, but it 
didn't configure in ext3 support, and apparently, didn't configure in other things as 
well.  Let me ask this.  If I delete the vmlinuz file, and the .img file, and delete 
the /usr/src/kernel-2.4.17 directory, can I restart fresh?  I renamed all of these 
files with a 2.4.17 on the end of the name so as to be able to boot to either kernel.  
I'm just wondering about anything else that might linger around that I don't know 
about.  

> ----------
> From:         Statux[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:         Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:24 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      Re: Mouse is missing?
> 
> > 1st. It cannot find my mouse.  And it even tries to remove it during the hardware 
>detection stage.  When I reboot to the old kernel 2.4.7, it finds it fine.  It's a 
>simple Logitech Wheel USB mouse.  This is cause X not to start, so I'm trying to get 
>advice on how I can troubleshoot this from the command line.  I have found very 
>little on the web about installing modules, IF that is the problem.  
> 
> You probably didn't compile support for the mouse or the stuff the mouse 
> uses into the kernel. What kind of mouse do you have and what port does it 
> use?
> 
> > 
> > The 2nd is, it's giving me this modprobe error about not being able to find 
>char-10-135 around the time it syncs with the system clock.  This is a minor error, 
>but it may give some clues on the previous problem.  I think both might have 
>something to do with my modules not being installed correctly.  Eventhough I have 
>followed the linuxdoc instructions explicitly.    
> 
> Character special device major 10 minor 135 is /dev/rtc or the Real Time 
> Clock. You either didn't compile support into the kernel for it or you're 
> missing this:
> 
> crw-r--r--    1 root     root      10, 135 Mar 23  2001 /dev/rtc
> 
> You're probably modularizing things that shouldn't be. Stuff like the RTC 
> should be compiled monolithicly. Same goes for the mouse and the ports, 
> etc, on the motherboard.
> 
> Stuff that would go as modules would be (perhaps) audio, NIC, printer, 
> etc. I, personally, compile as much into the kernel as possible since 
> modules will slow a system down ever so slightly (not a biggie for most) 
> but if you don't have the parameters set correctly, you can hang your 
> system. If you have support for something compiled directly into the 
> kernel, then if there's a problem with the device.. the kernel will 
> typically skip right over it.
> 
> Again, all really low level things should be built monolithicly. Make the 
> basic/native stuff monolithic.. and maybe the frills and featurey stuff 
> modules.
> 
> -Statux
> 
> 
> 
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