Leonard,

Your question, and indeed most of the comments in this thread, are based
on an assumption.  That assumption is that there is value for RedHat in
having people know that the $1.95 CD they bought from the local street
vendor has "RedHat Linux" on the CD.  I would assert that this assumption
has very low probability of being true, that in fact that it is more
likely that such knowledge is a liability to RedHat.  I see no mechanism
under which that knowledge can add value to RedHat, but it is quite easy
to see how that knowledge leads to additional load on their support
systems.  Yes, they can tell the person on the phone that the Linux they
bought at the local flea market is not supported by RedHat, but while
doing so it has cost the company a couple of dollars for the amortized
cost of the support infrastructure and the time of the technician who took
the call.  RedHat is a business and they exist, suprisingly, to make money
(the raison d'etre for all businesses).  They make money by selling
support, so the only way RH will make money when Joe Flea sells his press
of their distro on CD is if the amount of support revenue that it
engenders for RH is more than the cost of telling all those who bought his
CD's that they do not get free support and please get off the phone.  Is
someone who paid $4 for a CD of Linux going to pay $50 or $75 to RedHat
for a support incident?  Not likely.  At the end of the day, the owners of
RedHat, those who own RedHat stock, will demand that the company take
measures to make money and ensure that they are not bleeding it away on
phone support for El Cheapo Linux.  And that is all RedHat is doing by
reminding those who sell the cheap CD's that the policy is, and always has
been, that they are free to redistribute the product but they cannot call
it "RedHat Linux".  <Disclaimer mode> I do hold a very small block of
RedHat stock, on which, parenthetically, I am losing money as are most RH
shareholders. As an owner of RH stock I think they are doing the right
thing in protecting their assets and trying to make a buck.  </disclaimer
mode>.

- rick warner -

On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Leonard den Ottolander wrote:

>               Hi Rick,
> 
> > This has always been RedHat's position; RH Linux can be freely
> > redistributed but cannot be called RedHat.  Nothing new, just a reiteration of
> > what has always been true.
> 
>  So how would one identify such a copy as being RedHat Linux? I understand the 
> concern in regard to support, so I can understand RH asking redistributors to 
> make a statement that their copy is not an official RedHat release, that RH 
> will not provide service for it etc. But how the hell should CheapBytes call 
> such a copy? A Linux distribution from a well known vendor?
>  One more thing about redistribution: A *modified* copy of RedHat is not 
> RedHat, so I understand why Mandrake is not named RedHat. But an unsupported 
> copy of RedHat is still a copy of RedHat. How would you identify it otherwise?
> 
>                                       Bye,
> 
>                                       Leonard.
> 
> 
> 
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