I was unaware that up2date (which i have never used, because its kind of sounds like a pain..you gotta make an account with redhat and if you have more then like what 3 computers? you have to pay for it, even Micro$oft dont charge a monthly fee for updates!) can install a single package that is not allready installed, did i hear you right? It can do this? If i dont have openssh installed how would i use up2date to install it? up2date openssh* would i need to know the whole RPM package filename or what? Apt-get is the app i was thinking about with debian apt-get openssh and it does all else for you, your DONE, AND its FREE. It sounds like up2date is redhat's version of this, but its not free you have to register each computer then you gotta goto the web site enable which one you want, then update it, then if you have multiple computers you gotta go back to the web site enable another one then update it, my understanding is this trickery is not needed if you pay for it, lol.. Like that one Redhat? hehe.Where there is a will there is a way not to pay! Jim. PS* To sway some flames i may and perhaps should get, i am NOT bashing Redhat i think its the best distro out there, atleast ive been using it for long enough to realy get to "know it", which is fine with me. I tried debian it didnt find my VID card so i now use it for a coaster(no joke). I love the updates done with kickstart, kickstart allone makes Redhat great! I have kickstarts for an ISP i try to admin that will rebuild their 2 dns 2 radius 1 web 1 email and 1 ftp server in like 15 minutes, crashed hard drives scare me not anymore, thanks Redhat!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Storey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: Re: package management > I'm in full agreement with you Jim - RPM is good, but some sort of > package management system that resolves deps is BADLY NEEDED. > SuSE's Yast tool and Debian's apt-get are both a little clunky, but they > get the job done. I hope that Redhat is planning to address this in the > next release (are you reading this Trond?). Other than this, I'm pretty > happy with Redhat, it does some things better than the other distros > (hardware detection, to name just one). > > regards, > Robert Storey > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:03:02 -0500 > "Jim Bija" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think RPM is great, but it is missing something that you would think is > > just NEEDED. I have pulled my hair out MANY times chasing down DEPS. > > As i understand it in debian when you install something it will go get what > > you need no matter what it is and it WILL get installed for you. > > RPM has a long way to go i think. I REALY look forward to newer ver's of RPM > > and im SURE any redhat user feels the same. > > Jim. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Storey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:42 PM > > Subject: package management > > > > > > > Being somewhat new to Redhat, I wonder if I haven't missed something > > > when it comes to package management. > > > > > > Yes, I understand how to use RPM, and generally it works OK. The > > > tricky part is when you have dependency errors. RPM tells you when you > > > have dependency errors, but it doesn't resolve them for you. Same with > > > GnomeRPM - you're told what's missing, but GnomeRPM doesn't go fetch > > > the missing RPMs for you. > > > > > > I've used SuSE for awhile, which is also RPM-based. It's YAST > > > installation program keeps a database of what's installed and resolves > > > dependencies for you. Debian uses something similar with its apt-get > > > program. So I'm wondering if there is something in Redhat that does > > > the same job? The Redhat books that I've looked at all explain RPM > > > thoroughly, but say nothing about an installation/package manager type > > > of program. So I'm wondering if such a thing exists? I'm using RH 7.1. > > > > > > - Robert Storey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Redhat-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _______________________________________________ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
