I don't know if they're still running said combo (FreeBSD/Apache) anymore, so
the following may not work.
The find out what web server is being run (maybe - they could configure their
server not to return this info):
# telnet www.hotmail.com 80
<CONNECTED INFO>
GET / HTTP 1.1\n
\n
The returned HTML should have HTTP headers with the server type listed.
I just checked this on hotmail.com, and the returned headers show that it is,
in fact, running IIS not Apache. As of about this time last year, they were
still running Apache. As for fingerprinting the OS, nmap does a good job,
but you can quickly run into legal/ethical questions there, and I would STRONGLY
recommend against it.
The people who M$ bought hotmail from ran it on FreeBSD/Apache. M$ tried for
at least three years to move it to IIS, including a couple well-known,
high-profile (ie, mainstream media picked them up) extended outages during
failed attempts. M$ didn't admit to the fact that these outages were tied to
attempted conversions, but I personally did the above check (telnet port 80)
during one of the outages, and saw that they were running IIS. When things
started working again, I tried and saw that they were back to Apache.
At any rate, if we haven't strayed too far off topic yet (rotflmao),
hotmail.com IS running IIS, not Apache. They WERE running Apache as recently
as a year ago (they should've stayed with it, but as we all know, PR makes the
decisions at M$, not IT).
Jacob
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> How do you know that hotmail.com is running on Linux/Apache? I'm not
> challenging you on it. I'm just curious how I would substantiate such a
> claim. For that matter, is there some sort of command I can use to find out
> the type of O/S at the end of an ip address. Dig, nslookup and host don't
> really shed any light on that.
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jacob Killian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:07 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?
> >
> >
> > This, from the company who's new desktop OS (XZ, ZX, XT, ?)
> > comes installed
> > with remote administration turned on. Oh yeah, that's a REAL
> > good idea.
> >
> > Sorry, M$ is running scared. You'd think that after years of
> > not being able to
> > get hotmail.com off of linux/apache, Ballmer wouldn't be
> > calling it a "toy".
> >
> > People used to call PCs toys, too. People used to say that
> > no one would ever
> > need more than 8(sic) MB of memory. Those same people then
> > proceeded to drive
> > the need for more than 8(sic) MB of memory.
> >
> > I don't listen anymore.
> >
> > Jacob
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > > http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/03/21/3513425
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chuck Mead, csm -AT- moongroup.com, Owner, MoonGroup.com
> > > (Note: html formatted email sent to me is filtered & deleted unread)
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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