I sat in on a demonstration of an SGI mainframe not too long ago.  It was
doing rendering in real-time to 3 projectors lined up in a 180 degree
theatre...pretty darn amazing.  They used it to demonstrate applications
in architecture (very cool), flight simulators and other areas.  It was a
most impressive machine....I cannot remember the name of it.  Where I
lived their primary market was Universities and oil companies.

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael R. Jinks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: BeOs
> 
> 
> > I've wondered about this myself.  SGI based a significant portion of
> > their business on multimedia Unix boxes; granted the OS they used was
> > IRIX and the platform was mostly MIPS, and SGI is now headed directly for
> > the dustbin, so I wouldn't recommend that anybody actually buy an SGI
> > machine for anything real these days.  (On that note, Be ain't doing so
> > hot either last I checked.)
> 
> A few notes about the whole IRIX, MIPS, graphics thing:
> 
> First, If you were implying that IRIX is some arcane, off-the-wall OS that
> doesn't resemble any other OS, than your incorrect.  IRIX is a full Unix
> flavor and you can thank IRIX for the rc.d system we enjoy in Linux.
> 
> SGI boxes achieve their high graphics performance through two things: a)
> very high bandwidth i/o and b) not using Xwindows at all!  The graphics
> functions are handed off to a 'graphics pipe' which is essentially a
> computer-on-a-board that does nothing but render images to a display.
> Xwindows is used as a terminal for configuration and often isn't even
> installed.
> 
> As far as being 'headed directly for the dustbin,' I think it's a little
> premature to write off SGI.  True, anything's possible in the 'wild west'
> financial market, but SGI can still do things that no one else can, and some
> of their new products look very promising (www.networkcomputing.com has done
> some write ups on Linux recently and were very impressed with SGI's Linux
> servers).
> 
> > But SGI proved it could be done long before there was a BeOS.  Linux seems
> > to be going pretty strong these days, modern hardware is fast enough to
> get
> > around some of X's bottlenecks (provided you're running X server and
> client
> > on the same machine, at least), or there are some alternative windowing
> > systems coming up (I've not tried any of them) which promise better
> > performance than X can put out.
> >
> > A lot of the development in recent kernel versions has promoted
> multimedia.
> > Video now has kernel-level support depending on the card you have.  Sound
> > has been getting better.
> >
> The problem isn't hardware; it's drivers.
> 
> I think it was put best in an interview with an Nvidia engineer (I don't
> remember his name); he said 'we've had ten years to develop Windows drivers
> and less than one year to develop drivers for Linx.'  All it takes is time
> for Linux development to mature.
> 
> You are correct, however that xwindows can be a bottleneck.
> 
> > As SGI spirals downward, they appear to be trying to get as much of their
> > technology out in the open as they can, before the company goes away.
> > Probably the best example of this is their release of IRIX's filesystem
> > and volume management software into open source, but there has been other
> > stuff as well IIRC.
> 
> Again, you are corect, but for the wrong reason.  SGI is refocusing on their
> core strengths and they regard Linux as an essential part of  their
> strategy.  SGI has not only open sourced some of their software, but they
> have released entire lines of new machines that run Linux.  They have also
> pushed Nvidia to support Linux (see www.tomshardware.com for a review of
> Nvidia's graphics drivers) and I as a Geforce owner, thank them.  SGI's
> basic strategy is this: IRIX for the high end, Linux for the middle/low end,
> and NT/Solaris for clients.
> 
> I know I'm being a little defensive and I apologise; and no I'm not an SGI
> employee.  I do work with SGI boxes, however, and can testify to their
> potential.  Besides, I view anyone that truly supports Linux, rather than
> ride on it's coattails (*cough* Dell *cough*) as someone worth supporting in
> return.
> 
> $0.02
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
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