I'm having a bit of a problem with one of my 6.1 machines. One of my workstations recently had to be reinstalled (my fault... I accidentally hit the power switch during an upgrade from 5.2 to 6.1) and so, after a complete install, I needed to reset the machine's login capabilities, specifically, I need to allow root to login and telnet in. Since the machine is NOT in my cluster, I don't want to allow standard rsh or ssh, but I do want to allow rlogin (yes, I know, I should be using ssh and slogin) since it can be seen by anyone on the internal network (it's on a secure network, but is still much more exposed than in a cluster). By using my own knowledge, I was able to modify the /etc/pam.d/rlogin file to allow root logins... but I ran into a problem. If I set up pam to be permissive, it will allow normal users to simply type their name without requiring a password (during LOGIN, not rlogin... I'm talking someone at the console, here). Root needs to have the root password, but can login normally... I reverted to the original /etc/pam.d/rlogin file, and modified it to be less permissive, and voila, mission accomplished. Normal users can login as normal, and root can do an rlogin... BUT, there's a catch. When root does an rlogin I get the following: wew@otherhost> su passwd: [root@otherhost]# rlogin pigpen passwd: passwd: [root@pigpen]# In other words, it asks for the password twice (but only for root) before accepting the password and letting me in. If I don't properly enter the password, I cannot login. While this is an annoyance for a user, it's not an unlivable situation, except that I also have a cron job that goes to every one of my machines to do remote backups (Veritas Netbackup) and this breaks those scripts for pigpen (and since they are commercial, I can't modify them...) I finally broke down (when all else fails, read the manual) and checked the Beowulf howto... and I'm exactly correct as near as I can tell with what I've done, i.e., I'm "by the book", if I was trying to open up the node but not putting in the remote hosts in my /etc/hosts.equiv nor putting in .rhosts files for root, which would imply that I should only require the user to login. Oh, and since it's an obvious question, the reason I can do a restore is that Netbackup can't logon to the machine... a perfect Catch-22. The backups are perfect, I just can get them to the machine that needs them. This all worked properly under 5.2, but doesn't work under 6.1 with the fresh install... anyone have any ideas? Note, I haven't upgraded any packages; this machine doesn't have internet access, but I can get the rpms onto it if that's the final verdict. Sorry for straying somewhat off-topic, but thanks in advance. Bill Ward R/William Ward -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.