>Yeah but what really bugs me about threads like these denigrating MS is that
>apple stole the original gui idea from Xerox.  Somehow the MS haters
>conveniently forget this.

        Hardly forgotten,but perhaps over stated;
        1)Xerox PARC *Never* intended to put a gui on everybody's desk,
only the SysAdmin's.
        2)They never got it out of the lab. Ever.
        So, stolen? Or filched out of the dumpster out back?

>> >I'm not saying Gates
>> >invented DOS (he didn't);  I'm not saying that he invented the killer
>> >app(again,
>> >he didn't.  Visicalc did); I'm not saying he invented the PC(IBM, Intel,
>> >etc.).
>> >But his company was critical in those early stages.  Without
>> him, we might
>> >be
>> >using TR-DOS, CP/M, or some other legacy OS as the "mainstream" OS, and
>> >saturation
>> >would be a lot less.
        Or we might've been using DR Dos with QuarterDeck as front end; Or
something else. This is the basic "because of, or in spite of" problem.
        Once the machinery was there, somebody would use it. And lots of
people did just that, as i recall. But, hey, since you Had to pay for a
copy of WinDos Anyway...(now theres "inovation for you).

                                        pkl

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BioMedical Engineering, ENS 610
University of Texas
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