At 13:03 9/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Ah, yes you did, indeed.  I had missed that that excellent post was by
you.  (A reaction to it: Most instances of people saying "to be
secure, uninstall everything, make the box unusable" make me scoff,
but your description of a very limited backup box is actually
appropriate to the use.  Bravo.)

Thank you. To be fair, that box is locked down primarily against user mistakes not hackers, but hey... using it as the syslog server made me want to lock it down a little further to preserve my audit trail in the case of a hack elsewhere on my network.


I will note, however, that I wasn't the only one to fall for your
isolated "disks make great raid installations!"-post.

Ah, yes. The conversation moved so quickly from the OP's "yo guys, y'all got a backup preference?" question to the merits of media that the mistake was inevitable (and as you noted, multiple). Hope I didn't chew on your ear too much.


-kb, the Kent who thinks the idea of incremental backups over the
internet is about to be the new version of "off site backup".

Agreed.


Just like DNS, indeed. For my webhosting business, where the server is in the USA, I got together with a guy in Holland and we do secondary DNS for each other plus we have allotted 10GB hard drive space on each other's server so we can keep backups of our customers' sites. Keep in mind the average small website is less than 200MB and gzips to about 100MB... so there's enough space there to keep full/incremental backups weekly of about 75 sites. <grin>

The second backup is done from the webhosting server to an old Sun SparcStation 5 I bought especially for that purpose for the huge sum of $47 and which is located in Guatemala. The darn thing is a rock, running Aurora 1.0 (port of RHL 7.3) and basically staying on as long as I choose. Finally, my home backup server reaches out to the SparcStation and keeps historical backups as well, making that the third off-site backup.

Any disaster that hits the main server in Texas, the SparcStation in Guatemala, my P100 at home, _and_ the Dutchman has earned my data and is welcome to have it for lunch! Granted, having only 10GB to backup eliminates all the really hard stuff, but still...


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