On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Stelios Bounanos wrote:

> But even then, people can use programs that run under dos-windoze to reset
> the BIOS -- I've tried this with several different BIOSs with a _lot_ of 
> success!
All you need to do is open the cover and reset the bios. There ia always
a way to do this.

> 
> You are right, of course, that a machine can never be totally safe from
> people with physical access to it. But the latter is required for what 
> Tom Diehl described, a student lab(?). And I can't easily imagine students
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NOT me!! This was not my description.

> breaking machines open just to find their way to root privs on a single 
> workstation :-).

In this day and age one never knows. The older I get the less that suprises me.
Although I will admit you have to draw the line somewhere.

......Tom                       "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                   for you are crunchy and good with ketchup."

         Unix IS user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.


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