On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Harry Putnam wrote:

>> A linear text document has a top and a bottom, and it scrolls
>> continuously down the screen as you go down, and up when you go
>> up.  _that_ is what I want.  Hypertext links will be fine if they
>> stay in this doc.
>
>Some one needs to put a gag on Mike.  He's running dangerously close
>to earning the sobriquet `Windbag Harris'.

Another trophy forthcoming?  ;o)

>Mike, your output the last few days has been enormous but mostly hot
>air, making it hard to find the good stuff.  Slow down Dude, leave
>those little white pills alone.
>
>Try `space' and back `space' in info.

Thanks, but I have the info stuff in one bigass text file now
thanks to Alan Shutko.  Exactly what the doctor ordered.


>> looking for...  I can use LYNX easily, but info doesn't cut it
>
>
>Come back out of left field.   Try your page up and down in lynx
>(default keys), in `less' or `more'.  These things way predate the
>commands found in netscape.
> 
>Lynx pages with `spc' and `-' is that really so different from
>`spc' `backspc'?
>
>In fact one could argue that key commands in lynx are rather crazy, its
>just that we're used to it.
>
>For someone who took dozens of lines to tell us that intuitiveness is
>in the eyes of the beholder, seems your going berzerk here about
>something just because your not used to it.

Sorry, you're right...  Sometimes things just get me going
though..  It is easier to convey in speech some things than in
text.  My points are still valid to me, but lengthy..  ;o)


>> for ease of accessing information.  A more appropriate name for
>> the program is "impossinfo" or "deinfo" or even better
>> "info-withnobasenamedocumentation".  ;o)
>
>Texinfo is a powerful tool and like other powerful tools it takes some
>learning.  You didn't learn lynx overnite.  I still stumble around in
>lynx and use it at least a little almost every day.

Sure, I agree completely.  I don't particularly want to learn
info though.  I _do_ use it occasionally, but stumble around and
complain while doing so.  The lynx-like movement helps with some
stuff, but I get lost in there, and frustrated.  I _have_ learned
info before twice.  All the common keys.  Then a year goes by
where i've never needed it, and all is lost again.  That is why I
get so upset about it.  Non intuitive - to me.

>> Heheh.  Don't you love trashing programs that suck?  ;o)  Gets
>> some steam off...  ;o)
>> Take care
>
>Find a sparring partner or something, instead of letting so much off
>here.  : )

Hahahaha!  That might indeed help too.  Someone with a GNU info
shirt on or something.  ;o)

Take care, and thanks for keeping me in line.  ;o)

TTYL

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