I never used cartman or zoot list, but I have completely crashed many times after downloading a slew of rawhide rpms to update my system. The crash involved a wiped out boot sector on my root partition. Because I am careful to always run lilo after installing a new one I just discovered that the new lilo created 3 files: lilo.bak, lilo.conf.rpmnew and lilo.conf.rpmsave and no lilo.conf. lilo.conf.rpmnew was blank and the other 2 files had my original lilo.conf in them so I moved lilo.bak to lilo.conf and ran lilo. If I had continued installing all the new rpms when I finally decided to reboot my system would probably hang on lilo and I would have to erase everything on my root partition and reinstall. _______________________________________________ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list