The utmp, xfs, and any other UID/GIDs that landed in the 100-500 range
were a mistake. We're still working out how to correct this for the
next release. The general idea is to leave any existing broken
UID/GIDs that may have been created in 6.0 upgrades/installs but
correct the UID/GID creation for new 6.1 installs. This means that
even upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 won't magically correct the mistake,
but upgrades from >2.0 to 6.1 or new 6.1 installs would be correct.
As I said, this is just one idea. We don't want to have to dig
through the filesystem to fix the brokenness on 6.0->6.1 upgrades - it
would be a lot of pain.
If anyone has any suggestions, don't hesitate to post them here.
On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:32:43AM -0400, Matt Fahrner wrote:
> When we built the majority of our Unix systems, well before Linux had
> made any real headway, the number of system defined users and groups was
> minimal, but to be "careful" we moved our ids into the 100's (some 85+
> above the range at the time).
>
> Today the number of system defined ids still isn't much over 20 (if
> that) and yet we need to move our range to 500? This is going to be a
> massive headache and I'm not sure all that appropriate.
>
> Maybe I'm just spouting here, perhaps it's even always been this way,
> but this policy doesn't seem to reflect any sort general Unix standard
> that I've seen. Though the RedHat/Linux world may want to be
> progressive, such progressiveness shouldn't be in a vacuum of the rest
> of the Unix world. Some of us have large heterogeneous environments to
> support.
>
> Ugh.
>
> Matt Fahrner
> Manager of Networking
> Burlington Coat Factory Warehouse
>
> Tony Nugent wrote:
> >
> > On Thu Aug 26 1999 at 19:14, Tony Nugent wrote:
> >
> > > > I *really* need an answer to this from someone at RedHat.
> >
> > Thanks, I did get a reply (via private email). It deserves a summary
> > here.
> >
> > UIDs and GIDs above 500 and below 60000 are for user accounts, while
> > those below 500 and above 60000 are "usually" reserved for system
> > accounts. (Although I'm not sure what to make of the GID of 100 as
> > "users", but I'm gleefully going to ignore this one:)
> >
> > It seems that this "policy" can be implied from some of the config
> > files and documentation, but isn't all that clearly and/or loudly
> > explained. It seems that it is likely that this matter will be made
> > clearer in the documentation for RH6.1.
> >
> > I have inherited a legacy here of UIDs and GIDs below 500 being used
> > for ordinary user accounts, and to avoid any conflicts now and in the
> > future we will need to make some once-only changes.
> >
> > Thanks again to RedHat for taking the time to make this clear. A
> > brilliant product, with a great support team. Keep up the good work
> > guys, it's appreciated. Live long and prosper :)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Tony
> >
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