I’m installed my first MidNite AIO a couple weeks ago. It is beautiful and pretty much a drop in replacement for an XW on a MidNite e-Panel with the added capacity and functionality. I did forget at add a separate AC Bypass to my own chagrin.
Quirky and Glitchy is a polite but accurate statement. But, it does function and I can give MidNite a bunch grace because 12 months into the introduction of the Envy, Sol-Ark and EG4 All-in-One inverter systems, quirky & glitchy was also the norm. They have the advantage of more time has passed and we forgot.
So the next 12 months will make or break the MidNite AIO. Settings are a mess, data collection is a mess, but I have high hopes and think MidNite can get up to speed. I have also installed a bunch of MidNite batteries and have nothing but great results. Thank you,
Maverick
Maverick Brown Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. • Solar Commander Remote Power • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection [email protected]512-460-9825
On May 11, 2025, at 10:04 AM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <[email protected]> wrote:
How does the Lux, Envy, and Sol-Ark compare to Midnite's AIO? I was all on board the Midnite train but I'm coming to the conclusion that they released it prematurely. Glitchy and Quirky. One of the things I like about the LUX is that you can do programming with the built in display. The online monitoring is good as Maverick says.
I also think it’s way more accurate as well.
The LUX 12kw is a solid unit.
Jay
On May 11, 2025, at 7:35 AM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <[email protected]> wrote:
William,
I have both the ENVY and Radian (and XW at my own home).
The ENVY online experience is great. It may have replaced the Sol-Ark online monitoring as my favorite. (I have installed about 20 Sol-Arks and they also have tons of data and a great overall online experience).
The data collected by ENVY is far greater than OpticsRE, many more parameters are saved. ENVY also has a working smart phone App that shows more data than the now offline / defunct OpticsRE app.
OpticsRE does log enough data to understand that the system is functioning, but the additional AC data and way the information is presented gives ENVY far superior results. I do lean more towards the way OpticsRE allows editing parameters on the Devices section. That’s likely because I am more familiar with the terminology. But, The ENVY Inverter has a built in display / touch screen that allows you to edit all of the values and make the system work without any internet / wireless / bluetooth connection. That is a great fall back. I am used to the MATE3s, but new customers have a crazy time with learning how it works and where values are able to be changed. The ENVY App bridges that gap!
Now the dream part is that since Outback is now owned by the same people that also sell the EG4 18kPV (which is also made by Luxpower just like the ENVY), the best of both worlds could come about == more data collected and an available and a solid smart phone app for customers that want such a thing.
The screenshot of the app is straight forward and the tabs at the bottom show charts, alarms and settings. The screenshot for desktop is very detailed and you can scroll down on the first page and get 3-4 screenfuls of data for just about anything you want to know.
Let me know if you have a specific question, I can give you a comparison.
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Maverick Brown
Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. • Solar Commander Remote Power
On May 10, 2025, at 9:58 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches < [email protected]> wrote:
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