Firmware can be pushed over the web On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 11:38 AM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> Thx Ray. > Well to me if I have to bring a computer for firmware updates let me know > when they change that. That’s a nonstarter > > The LUX power and solark can do firmware via the web, no laptop required. > No updated firmware required to turn on > Adjustments can be made via the built in screen, app, or online. > One quirk is one update required the display to be updated but that can > only be done via usb drive Mac or pc is fine. > > Still a ways to go yet but it is getting closer. > Jay > > > > > On Mar 27, 2025, at 10:00 AM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > > > Firmware updates of the Midnite AIO are Not via the app. You have to get > a special dongle thing from Midnite, and Yes use a Windows based laptop to > do it. > > 2nd issue: you can not do any programming or change voltage settings on > the inverter itself, everything is through the phone app. > > 3rd issue: the App doesn't always work, and I had to download it and > delete it, redownload it 5 times, before I could finally connect to the > AIO. I was in Puerto Rico with very poor cell service, so Frustration > levels were very high. > > 4th issue: if you turn on the AIO without doing the programming setup, you > can lock the inverter. Stupid me thought I could just turn the inverter ON, > and it would start inverting. It took several hours to get it to work and > take the programming. I was literally about to Cry. I've been in offgrid > solar since 1988, and this was one of the worst experiences I've ever had. > Luckily Midnite support is excellent, and they hung in there until we > finally got it. > > 5th issue: programming doesn't necessarily take the first time, and I had > to change settings sometimes 3 times, before it would finally take. My > confidence level that it will do what I thought is low. Leaving it in a > remote location, with no one local knowledgeable to correct issues, is > seriously troubling. > > Once again, regardless of manufacturer, ALL AIOs are made in China, > designed in China, programmed in China, and are IMO, not suitable for off > grid remote applications. They are for DIY folks and avg. grid tie solar > companies that want to play around with GTB. I've tried Solark, Midnite, > Fortress, EG4, and all have not instilled confidence, and/ or had major > problems off grid. Fine for GTB, but live full time on it? Stake your > family's lives on it? NO WAY. > > I'm willing to try the Rosie for my next off grid job, because I still > trust Midnite, and because I just don't see any good alternatives, now that > Magnum and Outback are down. BTW, I still have old Trace SWs inverting > their hearts' out. Not ready to replace them. > > Ray Walters > Remote Solar > On 3/27/2025 9:27 AM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote: > > I’m pretty sure it’s all done via an app on your phone ( either platform) > to set up the wifi connection. > Then via the app you can do all sorts of things or via the web browser. > Again either platform works. > > Jay > > On Mar 27, 2025, at 9:07 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches > <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > wrote: > > > My first AIO/PowerFlo16 is coming up, and it's a triple inverter > installation. I can't wait! > > But I thought the Firmware update process was much easier – all available > to do remotely. Is that not the case? I assume it requires a Windows laptop > like EG4, HomeGrid, etc. That's something else I don't want to carry in my > truck. I'm a Mac user. > > Jason Szumlanski > Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group > NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP) > Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956 > Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208 > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 10:15 AM Tyrone Houck via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> In my experience the communication between battery/inverter has been >> seamless, the internet connectivity has also been very reliable. You can >> program settings and monitor remotely. No email notifications. I have only >> installed the AIO and haven't used the Rosie, Hawkes Bay, or Barcelona..my >> favorite inverter/battery combo by far is the AIO/Powerflo16. Installer >> monitoring platform works consistently though it would be great if they >> came up with a more mobile friendly platform for the installer. The user >> app is good and could probably be improved but I don't have any overt >> complaints. It's important to update inverter firmware immediately upon >> installation.. but the firmware installation program is super easy to >> use(you need a special cable assembly and a laptop). So far we have 7 >> separate sites in the field and all are working very well. Soon we will be >> installing our first multi inverter parallel system with the AIO and are >> looking forward to it. >> Overall, I'm a fan. >> >> Tyrone Houck >> Oregon Solarworks LLC >> CCB #204937 LRT #076 >> 541-787-1366 >> tyr...@oregonsolarworks.com >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025, 6:22 AM Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello Wrenches, >>> >>> I would appreciate opinions about the Midnite product line up, strengths >>> and weaknesses in regard to off-grid deployment. >>> 1. Midnite AIO >>> 2. Midnite Rosie, Barcelona, Hawkes Bay system >>> 3. How is the online monitoring/control platform for these systems? >>> Last I checked it was in development, but its been a while. Can you adjust >>> system parameters remotely? Receive warning/error emails? >>> 4. Any issues with battery communications? >>> >>> Generally, Im a big fan of Midnite, I really like how you can call them >>> and talk with someone smart. >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Mac Lewis >>> >>> * "Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates * >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> There are two list archives for searching. 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