Hi Wrenches,

I am regretting some HomeGrid Stack'd off-grid installations right now.
There is a major flaw in the way these function in an error state. For
those of you that don't know, these 48V batteries are stacked with a single
BMS on top, covering up to 8 batteries below. Each battery module has a
circuit breaker and dip switches to identify the battery communication
number and location in the stack. Each BMS can be paralleled to additional
stacks with communication cabling.

The issue is when one battery module goes into an error state. What will
happen is that battery stack's BMS will recognize the error, and then shut
down the whole stack. This cascades to the other stacks and the system
shuts down - fails to deliver 48V at the output terminals on the BMS of any
stack.

That is annoying, but what's even more problematic is you can't just shut
off the offending battery to bypass it. You need to physically change all
of the dip switches to bypass it and then reprogram the BMS to re-recognize
the new module count (after taking it out of parallel). This is all very
time consuming and requires the inverter system to be shut down. Even if a
battery is not in an error state, you can't just turn it off. The whole
system goes haywire.

Once you have it bypassed, you can hook up a RS-232 cable (Mac users need
not apply) and use their software to gather diagnostics. Customer service
will then want to do additional diagnostics with the battery in the stock,
but that is not reasonable in and off-grid system where uptime is critical.
One of the faulty modules I am dealing with was diagnosed as one of 15
cells with low voltage. The "solution" is to take it out of the stack and
charge it to 100% with an external charger.

By the time I'm done with all of the diagnostic nonsense, I can almost pay
for a new battery with the lost labor. Isn't the whole idea for this not to
happen with balancing done automatically? It was suggested to me that it
didn't get charged to 100% often enough, and that is why it happened. That
isn't an acceptable reason for failure in an off-grid system.

I hate to say this, but EG4 has a far better 5kWh solution in this respect.
Each module has it's own BMS. When one fails, you can simply turn off the
circuit breaker and everything else continues to work. In fact, a fault in
one BMS doesn't take out the whole stack or stacks of battery modules.

Back to HomeGrid. When this happens, in my mind this is an automatic RMA.
They should be replacing these, no questions asked. Especially at almost
twice the price of EG4. They actually want me to disassemble the case of
the battery and charge it with an external charger (which I don't have)
directly from the terminals that are internal to the battery case. Totally
unacceptable. Whatever is inside that case is their problem in my opinion.

I am not selling anymore HomeGrid until I get satisfactory resolution to
these issues. EG4 isn't perfect, but I have actually had pretty good
success installing some that I sold and quite a few that consumers
purchased directly. And at almost half the price, it's easier to eat the
cost of a battery here and there for customer satisfaction.

Anyone have similar issues with HomeGrid?

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group
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