I haven't seen these short leads on a module yet. I would not buy these
modules due to MLPE needs. They might be viable with Tesla's MCI RSD
solution, but I can't see making up custom cables for each panel of even
each row of a ground rack. These must be for a specific segment of the
market.

Thanks for posting so I can be aware before I buy any new modules. Looks
like those are Jinko, which is distributed pretty widely here in Florida. I
wonder if they have these short leads.

Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956
Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208


On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 3:52 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Colleagues:
>
>
>
> I have finally finished off the half carload of Mission Solar MSE SX5T
> panels I invested in a few years ago.  I am now shopping for panels for my
> next projects.
>
>
>
> I am a bit of a stickler for proper PV wire management.  I have spent
> years developing reliable wire management techniques
> <https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html>.
> These practices require the leads emanate from the short side of the
> panels.  This
> <https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/case_studies/31-Module_leads/Module_leads.html>
> web site illustrates the difference between what I call “short-side” and
> “long-side” lead placement.
>
>
>
> Upon inquiring with my local Greentech I find they no longer stock panels
> with short-side leads.  I looked further afield but it appears short-side
> lead panels are being phased out.  Even worse, the long-side leads are
> becoming very short.  See photo below of a common example.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am dedicated to industry education so I am doing some academic research
> on this issue.  Here are my questions:
>
>
>
> 1.   How do y’all that use these long-side, short-lead panels manage the
> wire connections?  I assume most of your projects require some type of MLPE
> so you can’t just daisy chain the modules via their own leads. Could you
> provide a photo or two of this practice?
>
> 2.   Do you have to make jumpers for each lead?  Do you worry about
> reliability of these extra connections?
>
> 3.   Have any of you found currently available modules that have
> short-side leads?
>
> 4.   Do any of you use the wire management clips
> <https://www.ironridge.com/component/accessories/> that some rail
> manufacturers provide?  How far apart do you space these clips? Do they
> seem to hold the leads without them drooping?  Could you provide photos of
> these clips in use, please?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for contributing to this study.
>
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
> Miller Solar
>
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>
> 805-438-5600
>
> www.millersolar.com
>
> CA Lic. 773985
>
>
>
>
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