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From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> on behalf of 
Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2024 8:01 PM
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Cc: Chris Schaefer <ch...@solarandwindfx.com>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase Batteries and IQ7+ Won't Restart

Out of curiosity, what battery form factor i.e. FLA, Lithium and manufacturer 
are your OB inverters running on?

Christopher

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 19:52 Wayne Irwin via RE-wrenches 
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> 
wrote:
Hurricane Helene has taught us the hard way that Enphase batteries with 
anything other than IQ8's won't restart.
The issue is that when the batteries try to restart (at the non-programmable 
time of 9:AM) if there are any significant loads, the batteries will not stay 
on long enough (300+ seconds) for any non-IQ8 micros to energize. The battery 
will attempt multiple times, but if there is a load, (such as a well pump) the 
draw from the load will essentially prohibit the batteries from energizing the 
micros long enough to engage and produce. The only solution is to have a load 
controller or turn off all loads once the power goes out. Otherwise, during 
these "attempts to turn on" power in the house will momentarily turn on and 
back off and potentially drain the batteries down to lower than the point of 
which they can even attempt to restart. I spoke at length with Enphase upper 
engineering (not tech support) about this today. They now know that most of the 
tech support staff does not know this important information.

Once the batteries are dead, they are very difficult if not impossible to jump 
start with a generator. At the recommendation of tech support we tried multiple 
times with the "approved" inverter generator which ultimatly just wasted our 
time. Even though the controller/switch will accept the gen power and pass the 
energy to the loads, it will not energize the combiner or batteries. If your 
goal is to have an autonomous system with Enphase, it's only going to happen 
with the IQ8's (at this point).

This is a significant issue with retrofitting older systems.

By the way:
- We've received numerous desperate calls from (orphaned) Powerwall owners 
whose systems also won't turn back on.
- ALL of our Outback systems were issue free.

I hope this helps some of you. Good Luck out there!

Wayne Irwin
President
License #CVC56695
State Licensed Solar Contractor
Pure Energy Solar International Inc.
wa...@pureenergysolar.com
PureEnergySolar.com<http://pureenergysolar.com/>
SolarChargingStation.com<http://solarchargingstation.com/>
352 377-6527 Office
352 336-3299 Fax


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