Is the generator power passing through the inverter to the loads, probably not?



> On Aug 16, 2024, at 12:36 AM, solareagle--- via RE-wrenches 
> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> 
> Message from the client tonight indicates the inverter charger has now 
> completely failed. Still inverting. Which board controls charging? 
> 
> Ray, good point about running the generator through a transformer. I 
> suggested that several years ago but the extra cost was a no go.
> 
> Ron
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2024, at 10:08 PM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches 
>> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>> 
>> If he's not running the generator through a transformer, then he's probably 
>> just running 120 vac off one leg of the generator, with no load on the other 
>> leg.  This imbalance will definitely cause generator failures long term, and 
>> not reliably charge the batteries.
>> 
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 
>>> On 8/15/2024 7:36 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>> My question would be what is the combined generator load?  Did anything 
>>> change?  Anything new, solar parts or ac loads or new person around?
>>> 
>>> The max charging is around 20 amps or 2400 watts, + loads can get pretty 
>>> large.
>>> Most generators don’t have that kind of 120v capacity. I ask because he’s 
>>> burned out 2 generators which says to me his programming might be incorrect.
>>> I’ve seen odd behavior if the generator is running too hard, if so I have 
>>> people turn down the ac input amps. It doesn’t matter where the charge amps 
>>> is, loads are priority.
>>> And
>>> 
>>> I’ve not seen this exact set of issues. Could be settings or an actual 
>>> board.
>>> Probably not the fet board but could be either the ac or control board.
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Ron Young via RE-wrenches 
>>>> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Wrenches, I have a client who has a 6 year old Outback 3524 inverter. 
>>>> It has performed well for him until two months ago when he started seeing 
>>>> huge fluctuations in the charging behaviour indicated on the Mate and 
>>>> flaky behaviour in the household loads. He said he’s also “burned out” a 
>>>> couple of generators. The AC loads remaining constant while the charging 
>>>> loads would fluctuate, doubling sometimes.
>>>> 
>>>> Because he’s pretty remote I’ve had him troubleshooting and he has 
>>>> replaced the battery pack, switched generators, checked all the wiring. He 
>>>> found a loose wire incoming from the generator but when repaired it made 
>>>> no difference. I believe the problem may be the charging board in the 
>>>> Outback is failing. Appreciate any comments or suggestions. Also what is 
>>>> the current status of boards from Outback? From reading the Wrenches list 
>>>> I see that Outback has changed hands recently.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> 
>>>> Ron Young
>>>> earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com
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