Hi Jason

And if you don’t have the smart controller/battery system then you do not need 
this proprietary rapid shut down switch correct?

Jay



> On Jul 12, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches 
> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, they require a proprietary rapid shutdown switch that connects to the 
> smart controller. This would be in addition to a visible load break 
> disconnect if the utility requires it. You cannot fulfill both requirements 
> with one switch, and it requires a line voltage circuit be run from the smart 
> controller to the rapid shutdown switch. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 5:15 PM Mark Frye via RE-wrenches 
>> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>> Do you need the additional switch if you use the Enphase battery?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:38 AM
>> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> Cc: Jason Szumlanski <ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Enphase IQ7 versus IQ8
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am trying to figure out why it is a good idea we use the IQ8 in anything 
>> other than a solar only backup scenario. If there are Enphase batteries 
>> involved, wouldn't the IQ7 do the same job on the roof? In a straight grid 
>> tied scenario, again the IQ7 would do the exact same thing. You would not 
>> have an upgrade path to solar only backup, of course.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'm just having a hard time understanding the value proposition of the IQ8 
>> in most of the situations I encounter. They cost significantly more, and you 
>> need an additional rapid shutdown switch when using batteries that can be 
>> quite a pain in some scenarios.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Am I missing something about the switching speed, energy harvest capability, 
>> or the way they interact with batteries that makes them better?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> P.S. I am aware of the very small power output differences by model number 
>> and I am referring exclusively to 240 volt applications. I understand the 
>> 208 volt advantages of the IQ8. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jason Szumlanski
>> 
>> Florida Solar Design Group 
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