On the other hand, utilities /have/ accepted inverters to shut-off power production into the grid if the grid fails via, I assume, software and/or electro-mechanical means.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net

On 3/31/2021 4:35 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:
I wonder how quick these software based approaches are to respond to loads that drop off and momentary selling that may occur before production is curtailed. I think what Greg may be asking is whether there is a failsafe method to prevent backfeed. Without a battery, I'm not sure how that would be accomplished. It's an interesting question.

I can see a small utility not accepting a non-failsafe software based solution unless it can be shown to be 100% effective via third party listing/certification.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 7:29 AM Will White <w...@solarenergy.org <mailto:w...@solarenergy.org>> wrote:

    Many inverters have the option to zero-sell (no export to the
    grid) but you need an additional CT on the main service conductors
    so the inverter can monitor the loads and ramp down production if
    it starts to get close to producing more than the loads require.

    I'd suggest getting into the manuals and white papers of the
    inverter manufacturers to determine if they can do this. I believe
    both SolarEdge and Enphase can do it. I'd assume others can as well.

    Thanks,
    Will


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    On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:24 PM greg egan <g...@remotepowerinc.com
    <mailto:g...@remotepowerinc.com>> wrote:

        Wrenches, I've got a small system using SolarEdge inverter (4
        kW) that
        is supposed to go in to a small town that does not allow
        selling power
        to the grid.  That may change but that is how it stands now.  The
        customer wants to use the power that is generated but can not
        sell or
        even give excess power away.  Do any of you have any
        experience setting
        up a grid tie no battery system so that it can not sell to the
        grid
        under any circumstances?  Just wondering before I dig any
        deeper if
        there's an obvious solution I'm missing. Thanks,

        Greg Egan
        Remote Power Inc.





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