August,

            Quite frankly and with due respect about the comment about more PV and battery to forego the need for a generator, I disagree. Those folks living off-grid in the sticks (um,er, myself included), it would be a very bad thing not to have Gen input. The current situation here in Plumas county  (and many other counties right now) is another perfect example.  It is so smokey that my daily KWhrs has been cut in half and of course every other off-grid home is having the same issue. This has been going on for almost a month with only occasional breaks.  There are also CC failures, FET board craps out, other excrement occurs.

            We all know there are many critical needs for power especially to run a pump for fire protection, frig for food, communication to know what the hell may coming your way during some event (fire, flood, bad weather) medical needs, etc.  In the winter there are at least a few times when there is little or no sun for 1 maybe 2 weeks...that gets to be a spendy array and battery.  Certainly, the idea of going that route works for some scenarios but not off-grid.  Generators are still a much needed necessary evil.  Maybe its a big deal to incorporate that feature in an inverter??  Sounds like bean counting.

My $.02 worth

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net

On 9/11/2020 1:01 PM, August Goers wrote:
In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied support features driven by SGIP + backup (public safety power shutoffs, folks who live in less stable grid areas, folks worried about natural disasters) so the ESS is designed to replace generators. This might be a little trickier for areas that need air conditioning during a grid outage (or for all electric homes), but one tactic is just to go bigger with the ESS and PV system. I guess what I'm saying is that the value proposition might already be getting better just to skip the generator and go bigger with the storage. Even Generac might be going that route.

August


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Jason Szumlanski <ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com <mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>> wrote:

    We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika
    now. They didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now
    that it has an orange label? Crazy.

    No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a
    generator manufacturer.

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    On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer
    <ch...@solarandwindfx.com <mailto:ch...@solarandwindfx.com>> wrote:

        Jeremy,
        Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR
        cell. Most of the old crew from Pika are now working for
        Generac. It's beyond me that Generac bought them and yet they
        still don't have a generator input. That's why I could never
        sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck.

        Christopher

        On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez
        <allsolarjer...@msn.com <mailto:allsolarjer...@msn.com>> wrote:

            If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former
            PIKA ENERGY support group, please contact me off list.
            Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their
            inverters rebuilt/repaired let me know.

            Jeremy Rodriguez
            Solar Installation / Design Expert
            All Solar, Inc.
            1463 M St
            Penrose Colorado 81240

            Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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