We have had good success with industrial diesels from a local generator shop 
(westquip diesel). Built to order with name brand components. Put a couple 7.5 
kW and few 14 kW units in last year, and they worked well through this past 
winter so far. 

Isuzu 3CH1 or 3CE1 engines, mated to a Stamford generator end, with Dynagen or 
Deep Sea controllers. 

For our cold winters in northern Canada, generators fitted with glow plugs, 
intake heater as well as auxillary block heater. We got down to -31F for a week 
this winter and they all started fine unattended. Put a few units in the year 
before with Kubota engines and they were all unreliable cold starters. Much 
happier with Isuzu. 

We have a few tweaks we do to the controller programming to help it in the cold 
weather. Have had far better success with this approach than any of the options 
discussed in this thread. Having a responsive generator manufacturer

Of late we have had many quality issues with Honda generators - both the 
cheaper EM series, as well as the EU. Frustrating to diagnose as we provide the 
repair shop with a detailed power quality analysis showing them the issues, but 
they just don't have the expertise to understand that. Their testing is "it 
runs a skill saw, so it's good, right?". So am having to caution clients who go 
down the Honda route, if they get a good unit it's likely to last for a while, 
but if it's a dud out of the box good luck getting it resolved. 

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Ray
Sent: February-27-20 2:26 PM
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

I know we have covered this before, but I just continue to be disappointed with 
the Generac Ecogen.  Very high failure rate, and support is poor.  Service 
requires expensive on site service. Also the no load AC draw and programming 
setup is just not off grid ready at all.  I'm still not seeing any other great 
choices, though.  Here's some other possibilities:

1) Quality portable, like the Honda EU 7000i or Northstar with Honda motor.  
Not the best choice especially for autostart, no propane, but at least they can 
take it in to the shop if it goes down.

2) Kubota (or MQ) diesel. expensive, and possible cold weather start issues?

3) 20+ kW water cooled, 1800 rpm propane model.  Overkill, expensive, but 
probably will last a really long time.

4) Similar Home standby unit, but Kohler brand.  Kohler used to be great, but 
now a days I'm not so sure.

I just can't keep recommending a generator I know has been giving other 
customers trouble.  Any new ideas on this age old problem?

--
Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

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