HI Ken;

Don't tell me, but you probably still have a copy of /The Passive Solar Energy Book/ on your shelves, with those nice old solar siting charts?
Those of us lucky enough to have been in the business for decades have 
been confronted with Ken's little considered fact: *Trees grow*.  I went 
back to a site I had done in '99, and was amazed I was so stupid to put 
the array in the shade of a 30 ft tree.  That must have been before I 
got my Solar Pathfinder, I thought......Then I started looking at the 
tree and my old pics of the site, and realized that tree was only about 
5 ft tall, when I did the system.  As Homer Simpson says:  " /Douhh!/ "
On the flip side, beetle kill in the Southwest has had the opposite 
effect; arrays that were on tall poles to get above the tree shading are 
now rather ridiculous looking sitting out by themselves in the now large 
clearing.
While I certainly didn't go into solar to cut down trees, sometimes it 
needs to happen along with clearing trees close to the house for fire 
danger.  I do my best to get folks to move the array to save the big 
beauties. (yea, I'm a tree hugger at heart) Higher voltage arrays 
courtesy of MPPT controllers help in that regard, too.
Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 9/3/18 12:26 PM, Ken Schaal wrote:
I started siting SHW systems in 1976.
Studied sun angle chart persistently, until i had a good sense of how the sun moves for our area in central Virginia.
 We also have lots of trees...fast growing, tall trees !
So while  precision shading analysis is a valuable tool, the info is static.
Our sites are rarely static !
The biggest issue here is getting clients to manage their trees.
I learned this even before I  started installing SHW, when I first built a sunroom on the south side of my house in 1974.
 Many trees have grown, and then become firewood, since then.
When the pv system was installed, in 2008, several more trees on the east and west were removed.Fortunately there were now taller trees to the NE and NW to shade house  in summer. Exterior movable shading, sunscreen,  on south windows, combined with interior insulating shades, allowing the collectors and pv panels to be in full sun, while the house is protected from unwanted spring, summer, fall solar gain. Being a full service solar contractor requires a long term perspective in our climate. And most importantly, clients willing and able to manage their trees ! It has been my observation that folks that love solar, hate to cut trees, even tho trees, in our climate, grow faster now due to climate change.
Ken Schaal
CommonWealthSolar.com





On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 12:45 PM Dan Fink <danbo...@gmail.com <mailto:danbo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    I use Solar Shading from Comoving Magnetics on Android. I had my
    class test it versus the Solar Pathfinder and Solmetric Suneye,
    and our shading readings were within 6-8%.

    The Solmetric Sunviewer app is also handy. I have never tried
    their iPV app because of the price, and because Solar Shades is
    working fine for me.

    Dan Fink
    Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
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    ~ PV Installation Professional
    ~ Small Wind Installer
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    On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:28 AM Jerry Shafer
    <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com <mailto:jerrysgarag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I still use the sun eye and solmetric, noting works as well as
        being on site, solmetric had an app way back when that was on
        a subcription bases
        Jerry

        On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 9:22 AM Jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Hi all,

            I’m wondering about which apps people are using for
            determining shading and sun position.

            Thx
            Jay

            Peltz Power.


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            Hi all,

            I’m wondering about which apps people are using for
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            Thx
            Jay

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