SSRs, especially AC SSRs made from thyrisotrs (scrs and/or triacs)  are "leaky" in general

so when turned OFF, can cause a shock....  Maybe not enough to kill you but maybe enough

to make you fall off the roof !

I'm not sure why the disconnects aren't good enough which should already be in place ?

boB


On 8/29/2017 4:53 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:
My vote would still be to use two single pole relays as suggested previously to kill each leg. That way you build in redundancy and dropping either leg will do the trick. In fact, it sounds like this would be even better than a two pole relay for the redundancy reason.

The other factor is whether you are using NO or NC relays. My engineer requires NO relays in these cases so they would fail in the open position only. I'm not sure how this would work, or if it would work with solid state relays. I have never dug into this. My understanding is that solid state relays fail in the closed condition (shorted). This would preclude their use in a situation where opening the circuit is the preferred failure mode. Maybe someone with some more knowledge in this area can chime in on whether SSRs are a good idea in this scenario.

Jason Szumlanski


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Nick Soleil <nsol...@enphaseenergy.com <mailto:nsol...@enphaseenergy.com>> wrote:

    The one-pole relay will work for de-energizing any of the Enphase
    microinverters.

    Nick Soleil
    Field Application Engineer
    Enphase Energy
    Cell: 707-321-2937 <tel:%28707%29%20321-2937>

    On Aug 28, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Drake
    <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org
    <mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>> wrote:

    Hi Nick,

    I should mention that the inverters being AC coupled are M-250s,
    not the new IQ series. Would that make any difference?

    Thanks,


    Drake


    At 03:12 PM 8/28/2017, Drake wrote:
    Hi Nick,


    At 11:20 AM 8/28/2017, you wrote:
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    boundary="_000_56449940CA694DDAABB811FCC45A2070enphaseenergycom_"

    You can use a one-pole relay.  We show one-pole switching in
    our zero-export, self-consumption doc for PEL applications.

    Nick Soleil
    Field Application Engineer
    Enphase Energy
    Cell: 707-321-2937 <tel:%28707%29%20321-2937>

    On Aug 28, 2017, at 6:44 AM, Drake
    <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org
    <mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>> wrote:

    Hello Wrenches,

    I am going to AC couple some Enphase inverters and found some
    really nice solid state, single pole relays to control them
    with. Enphase says I must use 2 pole relays for the control
    current even though the disconnects will turn off all power
    for maintenance.

    Enphase claims that the inverters will not shut down reliably
    with only one line opened. This does not make sense to me in
    view of UL 1741. Is Enphase correct in their claim, or are
    there other reasons that both poles need to be opened

    I want to use the solid state relays because the coil voltage
    is between 3 and 32 volts. This would avoid the need to add
    voltage dropping series resistors to protect the coil for
    higher battery voltages.

    Alternatively, does anyone know of reasonably priced, 2 pole
    solid state relays?

    Thanks,

    Drake


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