8 hours at least but 24 would be more accurate

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Ray
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:24 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator choice for Sunny Island


My experience with Sunny Islands are that their SOC can be off by quite a bit. 
Unfortunately with sealed batteries, you can't check SG with a hydrometer to 
confirm, and tweak the settings.  Probably the best you could do, is shut the 
system down and let the batteries sit for long enough to take voltage readings 
to double check the SOC.

I found systems that the SI thought it was close to full, but the batteries 
were actually only at 60%.

R. Ray Walters

Chief Technical Officer, RemoteSolar.com

BS Mech Engineering, 1988

Former NABCEP Certified, 2004-2016

Licensed Master ELectrician, Colorado

303 505-8760
On 7/24/17 2:16 PM, August Goers wrote:
Hi Drake,

Good questions. Yes, the taper charge appears to be working well. I've been to 
the site a couple of times where loads were low, irradiance was high, and 
battery SOC was ~90% and the Sunny Boy was just covering the load and a little 
trickle charge.

I have noticed that the SOC seems to max out around 90 to 92% - that seems to 
be the case with Sunny Islands in general. I'm not enough of a battery expert 
to know if this is a good thing or not. I do know that I custom programmed in 
all the AGM battery parameters and set max voltages. I also disabled equalize 
mode since I couldn't find any literature from US battery on recommendations 
for their AGM.

August


August Goers

Luminalt Energy Corporation

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On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:36 AM, Drake 
<drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org<mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>>
 wrote:
Are you getting a good taper charge with this system? Are the batteries 
reaching a decent state of charge from the AC coupled connection with the 
inverter?

Thanks,

Drake



At 11:08 AM 7/23/2017, you wrote:
August,

            Of course the genny itself has its own emission of noise but the 
environment its in certainly will affect its overall "annoyance level".  Backed 
up to metal container is a negative, I can't tell from the photo if the Kohler 
is on the side away from most of the public, probably don't have to go on, you 
must have thought of these things....it could have its own (partial?)enclosure 
with some sound deadening qualities.  Hondas are a little quieter but not that 
much, hopefully the darn thing doesn't have to come on, eh?

Nice set-up.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
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On 7/21/2017 11:39 AM, August Goers wrote:
All,

I thought I'd provide an update on our setup since we've completed the install 
and commissioning. More or less, the installation went well. We did have one of 
the US Battery AGM L16 batteries dead on arrival with a bad cell. That bad 
battery screwed up the state of charge (SOC) calculations in the Sunny Island 
and made the SOC reading jump from ~ 80% to 19% in just a couple of minutes. It 
was easy to find the bad battery - all the batteries were about 6.5 v with the 
bad battery reading about 4.5 v. We pulled that battery out of the string for 
warranty replacement and are currently running it with seven batteries at 42 v 
nominal. It's cool that the Sunny Island allows for this. Other than that, the 
frequency shift derate between the Sunny Island and Sunny Boy is working 
perfectly and the system has more than enough capacity to run the loads during 
the summer months. I'd say the Kohler generator is the nice unit although it is 
a little loud for this application. If I had to do this portable application 
again, I'd probably just go with the Honda 7000.

Thanks for your help! August

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