I appreciate the input.  The whole house disco could be an option.

This utility also sends out a letter as soon as I request potential customer interest and their most recent 12 month's power history. The letter states: "When analyzing the potential payback of solar power, assume that the future cost for energy from PSREC will be its wholesale cost of power, currently about $0.05 per kWh, and not the current retail rate of $0.1478 per kWh. This may affect the payback of your investment in a solar system."

Gotta love it.

Bill


On 5/2/2017 4:00 PM, jay wrote:
What got the PG&E lockout lifted was no-one knew who had the list, how it was to be implemented/locked or when how to be un locked, or who kept the keys, just to name a few.

Its all based on the faulty thinking that its stupid power ( generator ) and not smart power IEEE/UL 1741.

You might try if an inverter engineer might talk with the utility engineer.


And I’ve actually got one on my house. Its one of the first installs in northern California, and not only is the a lockable disco, its locked ON.

jay
peltz power


On May 2, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Mac Lewis <maclew...@gmail.com <mailto:maclew...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Here in CO, a lot of rural utilities have this requirement. Its very unnecessary as we all know. I would shoot for a directional placarding solution. Indicate where the main service is from the solar disconnect and where the solar disconnect is from the main. Worth a try, it always works here.

On May 2, 2017 10:46 AM, "James Jefferson Jarvis" <j...@aprsworld.com <mailto:j...@aprsworld.com>> wrote:

        Rather than trench, you could install a whole house
        disconnect. I doubt it would ever be opened.


    Here in my part of Minnesota the utilities won't allow you to do
    a whole premise disconnect. The lockable solar disconnect must
    serve the solar only and must be located within 6' of the meter.

    So I've had a few occasions where the customer has had to spend
    thousands of extra dollars to meet that requirement.

    It's a pretty crazy (read: anti-renewables) requirement in this
    day and age.

    -James Jarvis
    APRS World, LLC



        William

            On May 2, 2017, at 7:18 AM, frenergy <frene...@psln.com
            <mailto:frene...@psln.com>> wrote:

            Especially CA wrenches,

                       Anybody had any of their GT systems locked-out
            by their utility with the AC disco?  I'm dealing with a
            utility that still insists in installing an AC disco no
            matter what the conditions are and in this very rural
            area this can mean running an extra line out to the
            meter/main 100+ ft from the house (distribution panel
            back at the house).  So backhoe, labor, materials and
            Oops the backhoe hit a propane line.  Do they actually
            have a box of hundreds of locks to be able to lock-out PV
            systems?  I doubt it.  Would appreciate knowing for a
            discussion with their engineer.

            Bill

            Feather River Solar Electric
            Bill Battagin, Owner
            4291 Nelson St.
            Taylorsville, CA 95983
            530.284.7849 <tel:530.284.7849>
            CA Lic 874049
            www.frenergy.net <http://www.frenergy.net/>


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