Can you come out of the line side tap to the
lugs, and connect the solar to the breaker
terminals? This way a retainer clip is not required.

At 11:12 AM 11/30/2016, you wrote:

Sorry I should have elaborated more from the beginning.

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I am using the panel as a service disconnect for
a lineside connection (can’t use a
fused/bladed disco because of space
constraints). Originally I bought a QO 70A
panel, but soon realized that the Square D
retention clip (PK2MB) is only compatible with
their larger panels. So I bought a larger panel
(100A 8 Circuit) and then received some feedback
that having the open spaces (even if labeled
that “Do Not Add Loads”) could raise a flag
with an inspector. So then I was back on the
hunt for a dedicated 2 Pole 60A or 70A panel
with a compatible retention clip for a 30A
breaker. Eaton’s retention options only start
in the 60A range (the smaller breakers don’t
have the hole in them to put the bolt through).
Square D said they don’t have an option for
their 70A panel. There aren’t any good Siemans
distributors near me but I wasn’t finding an
option via google for them either.

Â

I talked with another Wrencher on the phone and
received this feedback which I’m just going to
cut and paste to include it in this thread:


“The NEC doesn’t require a hold down clamp
for the circuit breaker unless it can be backfed
from a multi-mode or stand-alone inverter (690.10(E)).

The language implies that a hold-down is
therefore not required elsewhere. Most modern
breakers (def. QO’s) are not marked “line”
and “load” so no problem there (also in same code section).

Â

Even when it was a requirement for all PV
outputs, John Wiles had argued that taking off
the panel cover, which required a tool, served
as the hold-down, and this was generally accepted.”

Â

So taken that advice I’m back to using the QO
70A panel but without a retention clip (or
calling the lid the "retention clip").

Â

For what its worth I have passed inspections
prior using the retaining clip from a generator
interlock kit (QOCGK2C) on a QO 100A panel, but
felt like there must be a better option out there....

Adam Katzman
Autonomous Energies
PO Box 1245
Kingston, NY 12402
<http://www.autonomousenergies.com>www.autonomousenergies.com
(518) 567-1468


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Drake
<<mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>
wrote:
Siemens has main breaker retainers. The
retainers for QO seem work on some boxes and not
others. It doesn't work on 6 space boxes I've
purchased, but does work on the 8.

At 10:14 PM 11/29/2016, you wrote:

Wrenchers,

I’m trying to find a 60A 2 Pole Breaker Box
that hashas a compatible retaining clip. The QO
retaining clip (PK2MBCP) seems to only be
compatible with their 4-8 circuit load centers. What are my options? Thanks!

Thanks

Adam
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