I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and also with higher amp hour packs. My drill screams with a 5 AH pack! I agree its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or NiiCad, but its still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
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On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost fully discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Glenn Burt
*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are depleted.

Do they say that this is not so for this model?

-Glenn

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] <mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]> *On Behalf Of *Kirk Herander
*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til you have the values of each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one of the four buttons on the drill to get the required torque. The values are set in the drill even with battery removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18 driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Dan Fink
*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password) for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to figure out.....so you still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.

Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)....and I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really simple, reliable tool.


Dan Fink

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On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett <wmdors...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:wmdors...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for a cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can imagine being up on a ladder, drilling with one hand and adjusting at the same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Warfel
*Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

    Hello,

    Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting.
    Amongst other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to
    various speeds and torques using a smart phone app.

    *Kirk Herander*

    *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *

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