Hey Gary,

We have used those in about 10 systems. Our oldest bank of 2V is about 5 years. 
As with all FullRiver batteries, no one has had any trouble.

Thank you,

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems




On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Gary Willett <g...@icarussolarservices.com> wrote:

Larry:

What is your experience with FullRiver DC1150-2 2V 1150AH AGM L16 battery?

Regards,

Gary Willett
Icarus Engineering LLC
214-629-4279

On 9/1/16 8:51 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote:
> Hear, Hear, Gary, listen to the Graybeards.
> 
> One thing I would like to mention here. Over the last 3 years, I have seen a 
> dramatic increase of early failures of Lifeline (like Sun Xtender, made by 
> Concorde) batteries. I have been selling and installing Lifeline since 2004 
> and have hundreds of 8-12 year old battery systems being used. I have not 
> been able to identify any cause related to use. 
> 
> So, has anyone seen Sun Xtender or Concorde early failures in recent years?   
>  
> BTW, we have been selling FullRiver batteries for a few years now with no 
> failures and very happy customers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Larry Crutcher
> Starlight Solar Power Systems
> (928) 342-9103
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 6:19 PM, jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> HI Ray,
> 
> I second your opinion.  
> 
> jay
> 
> peltz power
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Ray Walters <r...@solarray.com 
>> <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gary;
>> 
>> I think it would be a waste of time to load test a sealed battery that is 9 
>> years old.  Even at only 20% discharge, that battery only has 2800 cycles.  
>> At 80% discharge, its 550 cycles.  The daily system cycle is probably 
>> roughly a 10% cycle, coupled with the frequent deep cycles.  We have been 
>> seeing 5 to 7 years in GTB systems with regular sealed batteries.  Even in 
>> float mode, they don't last forever.
>> Also the customer has already done a basic load test, and the battery is 
>> failing.  Its only a matter of time before you start seeing cell failures, 
>> and then the system won't even work when the grid is up.
>> I'd just replace the set on your next trip.
>> R.Ray Walters
>> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>> Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
>> Licensed Master Electrician
>> Solar Design Engineer
>> 303 505-8760
>> On 9/1/2016 2:00 PM, jerrysgarage01 wrote:
>>> Wrenches
>>> You can do a carbon pile test but the best way is testing under several 
>>> conditions. Here is an option real easy and maybe faster, put a volt meter 
>>> on each battery under constant charge conditions, higher volts on one 
>>> battery meens high resistance in battery, low volts meens low resistance, 
>>> either extreme can be an issue.  Then let sit for at least an hour with no 
>>> load and check the volts, next put a fixed load on the system, again a volt 
>>> meter check each battery,  here you may find a lower reading then the rest, 
>>> there is the problem, now replace the entire bank not just the single 
>>> battery. This is an easy test and the customer can see it easily too.
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Gary Bassett
>>> Date:09/01/2016 2:51 AM (GMT-10:00)
>>> To: "RE-wrenches (re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>>> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>)"
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Test procedure for Concorde batteries
>>> 
>>> We have a grid tied battery backup system that uses 8 Sun Xtender PVX-2120L 
>>> batteries, about 9 years old. The grid has been going out frequently – 
>>> about 4 times in the past 3 weeks. When the grid goes out, the battery 
>>> voltage gets too low and shuts the system down pretty quickly. One of the 
>>> times, this happened within 4 hours. We want to test the capacity of the 
>>> batteries and we have a testing procedure from Concorde that seems like it 
>>> would take a lot of time. Is there a quick way to test the battery capacity?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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