HI Ash,

Backwoods solar sells 190 watt 72 cell modules that might give you some options.

jay

Peltz power
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Brian Teitelbaum <bteitelb...@aeesolar.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ash,
>  
> Are you sure that there are 12 of the SolarWorld 175’s on a single string?
>  
> Those were 72-cell modules, and I would think that having 12 in series in CO 
> would see open-circuit voltages over 600 VDC at least on some occasions. 
> That’s 864 cells in series, with would be about equal to having 14.4 typical 
> 60-cell modules in series. That sounds too high to me for CO.
>  
> One option would be to reduce the number of 175’s to 10 (720 cells in series) 
> and match them with 12 of the 60-cell modules (also 720 cells in series). The 
> older modules are 5” cells, so their amperage would be lower, but as long as 
> you get the voltage as close as possible it should be fine. Of course, this 
> doesn’t account for degradation, so you may want to do some actual voltage 
> measurements on the old modules.
>  
> One thing though – since twelve 280W modules is about 3360W, and you have a 
> 3kW inverter, there really isn’t enough room to add. The older Sunny Boys had 
> a much narrower MPPT voltage range, so I doubt that you could use strings 
> shorter than nine 60-cell modules. I don’t see how you would be able to add 
> much to the old inverter anyway. Adding a second inverter system may be your 
> only option, unless you can find some used 175’s. 18 or 20 of the 175’s, in 
> two strings, should work fine on the 3kW Sunny Boy.
>  
> Brian Teitelbaum
> AEE Solar
>  
>  
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of Ash Bowersock
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:48 PM
> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Add-On to DGT, string inverter, w/Different Modules on 
> 2nd string
>  
> Good day RE Wrench crew,
> I’ve got a client whom installed a 2kW array with a 3kW SunnyBoy inverter a 
> number of years back. Due to the age of the system I assume it is single 
> MPPT. The client oversized his inverter in the hopes of using it for this 
> future expansion (and unfortunately his installer went along with it). The 
> original modules were 12 SolarWorld 175’s I believe, and we would be looking 
> at adding SolarWorld 280’s more than likely. To me it is clear that this is 
> poor design practice and not something I am willing to do. My recommendation 
> is a micro-inverter system that we tie in w/his existing using an AC 
> Combiner. But the client wants to know exactly why we don’t want to just add 
> a second string of 12 SolarWorld 280’s to his 6 year old SunnyBoy inverter. 
> Can someone please give me a technical reason why mixed modules on a string 
> inverter is “poor design practice”?
> The more technical and dry an explanation, the better ;) 
> If you can’t convince them, bore them to tears with the details. 
>  
> Ash Bowersock
> Senior System Designer
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