Hi Todd Yes the XW, Radian, FXR versions and the RE version from magnum Have generator support.
But that isn't what I was talking about in my last post. Jay Peltz power. > On Jan 15, 2016, at 2:37 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: > > the old sw inverters had something called "generator support", where if the > loads exceeded the generator's output, the inverter would forego charging and > sync with, and assist the generator's output. > > the fx series does not offer this. > > do the radian, xw or magnum inverters do this? > > thanks, > > todd > > > > > > > > On Friday, January 15, 2016 2:08pm, "Kevin Pegg" > <kp...@energyalternatives.ca> said: > > Hi Jay, > > Thanks for your information. That generator mode sounds like an excellent > feature. I guess it is time to give the Radian an opportunity. > > re: XW+ generator charging - interesting point as I was recently trying to > get an XW+ 6048 to play happily with an under-sized Honda EU6500 generator > and after hrs of tweaking was only able to make it successfully connect > without overloading the generator when input amps were set to 2/3 of > generators rated continual output. It would be nice to have a slower ramp up > to 100% charge rate - something they should be able to do via updated > firmware if anyone cared. > > re: XW Power Distribution Panel. I will take credit for that! The first > prototype they showed us had these tiny wee little junction boxes reminiscent > of DR/SW days that was always lots of fun to cram in several # 6 conductors > (ideally when frozen). I lobbied hard for a huge box, and ultimately the end > product turned out quite well. > > Kevin > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of jay > Sent: January-15-16 12:15 PM > To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery-based inverter > > HI Kevin, > > I agree that tech support hasn’t been the been the best with OB, I do think > its getting better. > > As to the charger issues. The radian has a generator mode that as long as > its within voltage limits will use any frequency or harmonics and take it all > out. Amazing. I wrote here some months ago about a radian that ran the > house just fine, but with generator not. And the generator by itself not > either. But in the generator mode, it was perfect. And its the only > inverter out there with this feature I know of. > > And I’ve also just had to work on a set of new XW+ units. They seem to hit > the generator super hard on connection. I had to set the total connection > watts to be quite low to make them work. And that was after very long tech > support, that was no help at all. I think there just wasn’t anything they > could do. The customer is having to install a much larger generator to make > his chargers work at higher settings. > > A few other thoughts about these two inverters. > > Radian is field repairable, XW not > Radian has easy firmware upgrades, XW definitely not > Radian has built in WWW access. XW need addition hardware > Radian has built in AGS, XW not > Mate 3 easier to use than SCP. Now I know this will be a huge argument, but > try walking a customer through the AGS on a mate 3 vs SCP > Generator mode on radian is amazing. > > > For the XW positives. The XW BOS is large, easy to wire and will handle 3 > inverters and 4 CC. I love that box. > Vs the GS box which frankly is a joke. > > So I choose the Radian. its not perfect, but. > > Jay > > peltz power > > > On Jan 15, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Kevin Pegg <kp...@energyalternatives.ca> wrote: > > Interesting thread. Our firm wrote off Outback products several years ago for > two reasons: > > 1) beyond abysmal tech support - when we have a problem we need to talk to a > skilled, knowledgeable tech, not some kid reading off a script designed for > end users; or to sit around for a call back that never happens. > 2) ongoing power quality problems when the inverter was in charge mode via > generator, some more sensitive loads would not operate, causing customers > complaints. Does this still continue with the radians? > > It is nice to hear that the radians install ok, though luck is not something > I like to count on working in the remote bush. I am more interested in Radian > installs that were challenging, and was Outback there to expeditiously > resolve the issues and have a happy customers? > > My bias is towards the XW series. Our firm was involved in the design and > initial product testing of the XW system. It was a bit rocky at the start, > but has been a relatively stable product. The ability to remotely monitor and > program a customer's system is a big plus for a lot of our remote clients. > > The two big complaints I have with the XW is the useless battery capacity > meter. I know there is an add on module available now but have not tested > that. Customers wonder why I put tape over the capacity indicator lights on a > brand new inverter. And the other is long term stability. We find in remote > automated unattended hybrid cycle charge sites that the inverter will at > least once a year screw up, resolved by a power cycle. So we just make it > part of maintenance routines to reboot the systems when we are onsite for > planned service. > > We use SMA Sunny Island product for larger industrial projects. More > expensive, more difficult to set up, more difficult to program - but once > they are up and running solid with no issues and they take better care of > batteries through a smarter charging algorithm. > > Kevin > > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of john.blittersd...@gmail.com > Sent: January-14-16 6:36 PM > To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery-based inverter > > Kirk, I agree with Peter. I have installed several Radians with good luck. > I installed one SI and it worked ok but was more expensive and very time > consuming to install. Did one XW and would never do it again. Never has > worked right. > > John > Central Vermont Solar & Wind > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Peter Parrish <peter.parr...@calsolareng.com> > wrote: > > My 2 centavos. Stick with them. I prefer their approach over SMA. > > - Peter > > Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D. > President, SolarGnosis > 1107 Fair Oaks Ave. > Suite 351 > South Pasadena, CA 91030 > (323) 839-6108 > peter...@pobox.com > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Kirk Herander > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:39 PM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: [RE-wrenches] battery-based inverter > > Hello, > Can anyone recommend a good battery-based inverter for grid-intertie? I need > both generator and utility inputs, 120 or 240 output. I have experience with > the OB Radian series but don’t know what else is out there. Thanks. > > Kirk Herander > Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC > Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016 > www.vermontsolarnow.com > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > NABCEPTM 2003 Inaugural Certificant > VT RE Incentive Program Partner > 802.863.1202 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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